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Old 08-13-2012, 03:10 PM #64
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If you live in a state where you are able to get a concealed carry or a open carry permit and your state or county awards you said permit, then i see no issues with you utilizing that permit while you are in a educational setting.

Colleges enforce the laws of the states and counties so i don't see why they should not respect and honor their permits. If the state or county found me competent to carry then i would hope that the educational community i belonged to would also find me competent to carry.
If only common sense actually prevailed in our legal system.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:12 PM #65
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I'm about as pro-2A as you can get but I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Concealed carry on campus appeals to my emotions by not my logic. I mean, at least from what I have seen thus far, I wouldn't trust majority of 18-22 year olds with a gun. There's just too much alcohol, drugs, etc. A lot a of social drama and great potential for things to get out of hand. I feel like any tiny misunderstanding would end up escalating into someone doing something inexplicably retarded.

I would be alright with it if the students who are issued the permits have proven time and time again to be intelligent and highly responsible individuals and are required to take a lengthy course on firearm safety as well as practice.
Have to be 21 to get a permit in most states; in the others, so far as I know, it's constitutional carry. So why would they be able to carry elsewhere but not on campus? Why can I carry into a bar that explicitly sells alcohol but not on campus?
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:17 PM #66
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Why can I carry into a bar that explicitly sells alcohol but not on campus?
You can't. At least not legally.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:29 PM #67
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You can't. At least not legally.
that might vary state to state. Texas is if the business makes 51% of its money on alcohol sales then it puts up a 51% sign and its illegal to CC in the establishment.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:32 PM #68
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University of Colorado decided to have a dorm that allows weapons. Let's see how it plays out, hopefully they will handle it well and not do anything stupid.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:54 PM #69
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I wish I could carry a concealed weapon everywhere I go. If I am somewhere where concealed weapons are not allowed, but then a gunman comes in and decided to start shooting up the place, I am ****ed.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:51 PM #70
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You can't. At least not legally.
Yeah, I can carry pretty much anywhere in VA that doesn't have a sign forbidding me from doing so.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:46 AM #71
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At a private music venue there's typically security within shouting distance and a ton of people which greatly lessens your chance of being robbed. Not the case on a college campus at night.
Lolwut.

Know how many robberies happen in packed music venues? A LOT. Pretty easy to slip your hand into someones pocket and grab their wallet when they're not paying any attention to their immediate surroundings which is what concerts tend to try and accomplish. Robberies don't mean *Points Gun* "GIVE ME ALL YO MONAYS OR I SHOOT." Majority involve pickpockets and the sort. Plus, in normal robbery situations, supposing a gun isn't involved, you are not permitted to shoot someone just for taking your property. A guy got charged because he shot at the ground to scare a guy jumping out of a window after a robbery. I would be frightened if kids felt, "oh that kid is being a bully, ima buss a cap in dey ***."

Paintballhoodlum, a lot of people get through the day without dying that don't carry guns with them everywhere they go. You'll be ok man.

My campus (University of New Hampshire) has two police forces. UNH Police and Durham Police which is the town that is pretty much all UNH. So there is a lot of police in a small area, both which are legitimate police forces and carry arms.
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:37 AM #72
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Plus, in normal robbery situations, supposing a gun isn't involved, you are not permitted to shoot someone just for taking your property.
that varies state to state and isnt true in texas.

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I would be frightened if kids felt, "oh that kid is being a bully, ima buss a cap in dey <del>***</del>."
I fail to see how that is at all relevant to the discussion. If someone felt that way, how does that at all change the discussion on CC on campus? This isnt a blanket all that anyone anywhere can carry on campus, and if those types of people were to be carrying, remember they can carry everywhere else already so if thats your scenario then you should be frightened all the time. The idea is that people who can legally carry everywhere else should not be stopped from carrying on campus. This isnt "put a gun in every students hands and see what happens". We can, legally, carry most everywhere else, why is there some invisible barrier that stops me from walking on campus with my weapon.

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:31 AM #73
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You would think from all the school shootings that guns WOULD be allowed on campus. If everyone has a gun, no one is going to try to shoot up a school.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:54 PM #74
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all for it considering how many kids get robbed and **** stolen on a weekly basis
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:04 PM #75
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all for it considering how many kids get robbed and **** stolen on a weekly basis
Disparity of force.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:43 PM #76
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No, the last thing we need is ******* kids getting drunk and going trigger happy.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:14 AM #77
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No, the last thing we need is <del>*******</del> kids getting drunk and going trigger happy.
Last thing we need is dumb *** kids who cant comprehend the idea.

This has been beaten down so many times already.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:19 AM #78
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Last thing we need is dumb *** kids who cant comprehend the idea.

This has been beaten down so many times already.
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I don't understand why people think all of a sudden everyone and their mother will be walking around with a gun like it's the wild west. I don't even own a gun, but I would not have any problem with law abiding citizens carrying their guns on campus.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:37 AM #79
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I wouldn't mind being able to carry on campus. For the most part, people who go through the trouble to get their CCW aren't going to try to do anything stupid with it. There has been several times a CCW carrier was able to stop gunmen before the police could do anything.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:17 AM #80
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I don't understand.. why you SHOULDN'T be able to. If you have permit you should be able to carry anywhere... law abiding citizens (including post offices, court, whatever else, police stations)

If plan to do body harm to someone.. A little sign thats says you can't carry a firearm isn't gone to stop you.

Another thing about CCW... Its out of sight out of mind.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:37 AM #81
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I don't understand.. why you SHOULDN'T be able to. If you have permit you should be able to carry anywhere... law abiding citizens (including post offices, court, whatever else, police stations)

If plan to do body harm to someone.. A little sign thats says you can't carry a firearm isn't gone to stop you.

Another thing about CCW... Its out of sight out of mind.
courts? i dont know about that one
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:51 PM #82
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Legally we are not allowed to carry on campus at WVU. But I along with alot of my friends keep a weapon on them no matter what (when going to class). I don't bring any weapons out with me when I go party, thats just stupid.

They are worried about you escalating the situation. There are many people out there that have their ccp, but either haven't grown up around guns/target practice/taken classes.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:20 PM #83
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As someone who carries everywhere but school, I would like to remove the school aspect. With all the shootings on campuses these days, seems like a no-brainer to allow people who can legally carry to carry everywhere else. Being against the law obviously doesnt stop the people who are intent on breaking the law. All you have done by making it illegal is ensure that when someone wants to go on a shooting rampage they will face no obstacles before they begin to shoot.

The argument that somehow allowing people who can CCW legally already, to carry on campus would somehow result in putting weapons in the hands of crazy drunken shoot happy students is ridiculous. Why can i legally carry through the state with the exception of a few things but somehow when i step on campus i become a crazed drunken retard?

I carry for my own protection everywhere else, i would do the same on campus. You chose not to carry, and thats your choice. If something were to happen and i needed to protect myself, i would. If something is happening to someone else, i dont involve myself. You can wait on the police to help you while being mugged, thats your prerogative. I choose to be a little more proactive.

Its because this country doesn't think logically like you do, and the people that are in it are stupid as hell.
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Lolwut.

Know how many robberies happen in packed music venues? A LOT. Pretty easy to slip your hand into someones pocket and grab their wallet when they're not paying any attention to their immediate surroundings which is what concerts tend to try and accomplish. Robberies don't mean *Points Gun* "GIVE ME ALL YO MONAYS OR I SHOOT." Majority involve pickpockets and the sort. Plus, in normal robbery situations, supposing a gun isn't involved, you are not permitted to shoot someone just for taking your property. A guy got charged because he shot at the ground to scare a guy jumping out of a window after a robbery. I would be frightened if kids felt, "oh that kid is being a bully, ima buss a cap in dey ***."
You're talking about theft, not robbery, robbery explicitly involves violence or the threat thereof.
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