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Old 12-09-2012, 01:15 PM #799
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ight, ill test it out sunday. currently im out of paint and air. thank you for all the suggestions! ill try and find an allen key that fits that top hat now..... ud think a gun in this price range would have a key for the reg......

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Don't feel bad, Luxes don't come with the big allen key either.

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Hm, can you explain that top hat screw issue maybe some more? Where do I have to look? Then that will be my last option!

Thanks for the help guys!!!
I believe you can find the fix in Pro-Mods guide. Sounds like the same issue where the Top Hat shifts and the pressure spikes.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:38 PM #800
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Vapor leak

I've done everything I can think of and followed ProMod's guide to no avail, I'm posting here hoping we can get this fixed before I have to send it in to Machine.

The low-down:
-I'm using a brand new Ninja Pro Reg with all the shims removed.
-My Vapor was missing a few o-rings when I got it and subsequently was leaking from everywhere.
-After replacing every o-ring I aired it up today and and it was leaking down the barrel and the marker would not cycle air (pushed the bolt forward instead of locking it back)
-so I replaced the two O-rings in the breech area, and the two O-rings on the bolt guide (mind you, these were brand new O-rings anyway...)
-Air it back up and it starts blowing air (Leak < blow) out of the vent port
-Replace the O-rings ProMod mentioned here and it's been leaking there still.

Here's what I think may be the problem, but I have no technical knowledge on how to troubleshoot these:

-The solenoid is busted (How? looks perfectly fine, and clicks when I play with the trigger)
-The regulator is broke and pushing way too much air into the solenoid causing it to blow out the vent?
-F%#K me it's more trouble than I can possibly hope to overcome?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I bought this marker knowing it wasn't working, but I couldn't have imagined having this much trouble with it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:25 PM #801
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:27 PM #802
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Dan0102 I would just send it to machine and have the guys there take care of it for you. Super easy and they will get it running like new or send it to pro mod. Either way its fixed and you arent scratching your head for days.
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I've done everything I can think of and followed ProMod's guide to no avail, I'm posting here hoping we can get this fixed before I have to send it in to Machine.

The low-down:
-I'm using a brand new Ninja Pro Reg with all the shims removed.
-My Vapor was missing a few o-rings when I got it and subsequently was leaking from everywhere.
-After replacing every o-ring I aired it up today and and it was leaking down the barrel and the marker would not cycle air (pushed the bolt forward instead of locking it back)
-so I replaced the two O-rings in the breech area, and the two O-rings on the bolt guide (mind you, these were brand new O-rings anyway...)
-Air it back up and it starts blowing air (Leak < blow) out of the vent port
-Replace the O-rings ProMod mentioned here and it's been leaking there still.

Here's what I think may be the problem, but I have no technical knowledge on how to troubleshoot these:

-The solenoid is busted (How? looks perfectly fine, and clicks when I play with the trigger)
-The regulator is broke and pushing way too much air into the solenoid causing it to blow out the vent?
-F%#K me it's more trouble than I can possibly hope to overcome?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I bought this marker knowing it wasn't working, but I couldn't have imagined having this much trouble with it.
make sure the bolt bumper oring is in place. I saw one the other day that was leaking and the bumper was missing. Replaced this and all was well.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:26 PM #804
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I would say check the sail, front can oring or front bolt guide oring
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:46 PM #805
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I had that same issue when I used my friends tank today. We both use Ninja Pro with only one shim in place. With his tank the Vapor could fire a couple of shots and then the bolt stays in forward position and leaked. With mine no problem. Strange!
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Most Likely it's the ones I mark in green. the other 2 are a high probability. Even if you changed the orings changed them again and lube accordingly
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I've done everything I can think of and followed ProMod's guide to no avail, I'm posting here hoping we can get this fixed before I have to send it in to Machine.

The low-down:
-I'm using a brand new Ninja Pro Reg with all the shims removed.
-My Vapor was missing a few o-rings when I got it and subsequently was leaking from everywhere.
-After replacing every o-ring I aired it up today and and it was leaking down the barrel and the marker would not cycle air (pushed the bolt forward instead of locking it back)
-so I replaced the two O-rings in the breech area, and the two O-rings on the bolt guide (mind you, these were brand new O-rings anyway...)
-Air it back up and it starts blowing air (Leak < blow) out of the vent port
-Replace the O-rings ProMod mentioned here and it's been leaking there still.

Here's what I think may be the problem, but I have no technical knowledge on how to troubleshoot these:

-The solenoid is busted (How? looks perfectly fine, and clicks when I play with the trigger)
-The regulator is broke and pushing way too much air into the solenoid causing it to blow out the vent?
-F%#K me it's more trouble than I can possibly hope to overcome?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, I bought this marker knowing it wasn't working, but I couldn't have imagined having this much trouble with it.
Hey Man,

Sorry to hear that happened to you. I had a VERY similar experience to you with everything that happened to missing o rings to not being able to get my gun to chrono past 230/ 240. For the longest time I thought it was the orings and well to make a long story short. Unfortunately, it was my solenoid, I don't know how either because my gun was brand new also but that was the cause. I realized this when I took my gun to the paintball shop and my friend said we tried everything except the solenoid. We switched out the solenoid with another vapor solenoid and boom no more problems. So, I explained it to vapor and I sent out my gun there and they replaced the solenoid for free because its still under warranty. I am just currently waiting to get my gun back. We may have been one of the rare cases that is happened to but Machine will get you squared away. I know you rather not send it in but I would try a solenoid swap and see if that was the case.
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Old 12-10-2012, 05:12 PM #808
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Yeah I just sent it to Machine. How was the turnaround time for yours? Fairly quick?
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That being said, I have a threshold that'll outshoot EVERY modern marker. when people dry-fire it, they swear it's not chrono'ing, but once you put paint in it, it's shooting 310.
Truth! I was amazed when I was dry firing it, and then we shot some reballs. Awesome work!
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Yeah I just sent it to Machine. How was the turnaround time for yours? Fairly quick?
1st time i've sent it to them i got it back in 2 days after they received it... 2nd time i sent it to them... well it's been 2 weeks... since they received it

Ken stopped replying to my email... and now Jay stopped lol I think they stole my marker hahaha.

Supposedly they shipped it last wednesday
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1st time i've sent it to them i got it back in 2 days after they received it... 2nd time i sent it to them... well it's been 2 weeks... since they received it

Ken stopped replying to my email... and now Jay stopped lol I think they stole my marker hahaha.

Supposedly they shipped it last wednesday
Same thing with me. I would try and reach out again. I reached out to them a couple of times and its been a while also. I spoke with Ken a few days ago. He was out for a week because he was sick. They shipped out my marker out yesterday.
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Yes, sorry guys I have been out sick for 9 days. But am back in full swing, well semi full swing. All guns have gone back out via USPS. Again let me say sorry, being sick put me behind but all is caught up. Normal turn around is 2-3 business days.
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Im excited to get my vapor looks like some amazing guns will machine be putting any other high end markers?
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Truth! I was amazed when I was dry firing it, and then we shot some reballs. Awesome work!
my threshy was the same and i dont know why????????? lol i sold it off the a long time a go but it is still the quietest gun ive shot
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Has anyone here tried shooting a Vapor using the Guerrilla Air Myth ELOP (275psi output pressure) reg and mind posting some thoughts/feedback? Just curious.


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Yes, sorry guys I have been out sick for 9 days. But am back in full swing, well semi full swing. All guns have gone back out via USPS. Again let me say sorry, being sick put me behind but all is caught up. Normal turn around is 2-3 business days.
Glad to hear that you're back in action Ken, thanks for keeping the community here in the light . Can't wait to see what you guys have planned for this coming year, keep up the great work.
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How do I set my vapor to psp
tap the power button until the screen says PSP (aka tourney 1). otherwise, go into the board settings and change the mode... http://www.goapeonline.com/app/downl...+Setpoints.pdf

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my threshy was the same and i dont know why????????? lol i sold it off the a long time a go but it is still the quietest gun ive shot
large valve chamber, fairly low pressure, and the valve opened quickly. It was even better with the TechT bolt!

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Has anyone here tried shooting a Vapor using the Guerrilla Air Myth ELOP (275psi output pressure) reg and mind posting some thoughts/feedback?...
275? You'll probably get drop-off. I recommend 350 at the lowest.
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Has anyone here tried shooting a Vapor using the Guerrilla Air Myth ELOP (275psi output pressure) reg and mind posting some thoughts/feedback? Just curious.
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That is the same Output Pressure as the Ninja SLP. Some people have had success using the Ninja SLP but just as many have not had success so it is 50/50. As ProMod Stated just keep it over 350 and under 550.

I'm one of the few with success using the SLP. There really is not much of a gain for the Vapor between the 275psi Output and the 450psi Output maybe half a pod.
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I tried looking.. But I can't seem to find it. But my reg is screwing in completely on my vapor but the milling doesn't line up. Can someone help me as to how I can line it up?
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