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Old 12-06-2012, 08:35 AM #43
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we fell into the D2 squeeze last season and couldn't play together as a team in the MSXL and are too broke to play PSP which resulted in us simply not playing xball. It would be nice to have something local that offers an open class other than SEPS.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:09 PM #44
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Absolutely not. We are working on it with PSP and APPA
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And for the record guys, Im not saying D3 because I'm scared, that mentality is ignorant, I have the entire AC talent pool. Im saying D3 because I wanted my younger guys to compete with equal guys. Either way I'm putting teams in, I effing love this series!

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:23 AM #45
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And for the record guys, Im not saying D3 because I'm scared, that mentality is ignorant, I have the entire AC talent pool. Im saying D3 because I wanted my younger guys to compete with equal guys. Either way I'm putting teams in, I effing love this series!
My thoughts exactly... I don't care who we play against.. I don't have the whole "AC talent pool" but I have younger talent that I would like to be able to compete with equal players. Anyone who knows most of us know we don't care about playing at a disadvantage.. Yes, D2 PSP is expensive.. But isnt that the cost of getting better? You've gotta go where the competition is. What's the point of getting to the top of your division and come back the next year to play most of the same teams in the same "open" divison. Nothing against the D2 teams. I have plenty of friends on that side. Jus sayin..
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:13 PM #46
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I think we can agree there's not enough time in the day sat and Sunday to do r2 and r4 and add a third division. Which means you will have to do one the following ,limit the amount of teams to make 3 things fit , or add a extra day start fri , hold a particular classification on a separate weekend as dude said, or mix divisions which will be frustrating to many teams. Your getting into a situation that shows the league is growing. I honestly think holding r2 games on Friday would be the best option . Just my 2c . That gives you time to run r2 games Friday , r4 d4 on sat and r4 d3 and a open r5 on Sunday.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:58 AM #47
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Just a thought, but another problem I see with going Open instead of D3 is the cap for teams. Last season, every event was usually maxed out with teams. If it goes to open a lot of teams are definitely not going to have the chance to play due to the Max Team Cap since D3 teams, D2 teams, and whoever else are going to be competing just to sign up. Again just a problem that might arise.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:13 AM #48
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If half of your D3 team gets promoted to D2, then why doesn't the rest of the team step up and play in a D2 division?
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:49 AM #49
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There's only so much time in the weekend to fit x amount of games. Nobody wants to play in the dark either. If your drawing Max Capacity teams now how you gonna be able to add another division or open it to more teams... Doesn't make sense esp with fresh crop of d4teams being forced up to d3 . Add a day or get rid of race to 2 and you can have another division . Either way they will have have a lower team cap.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:37 AM #50
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if im not mistaken plex and asylum has 3 fields each so all the divisions could be played
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:02 PM #51
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are you going to have race to two play on the indoor field, and are those the only two fields that are going to host events?
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:20 PM #52
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:03 PM #53
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adding a field would make sense but could be a logistical nitemare and i really dont think friday is an option either cant get off work
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:01 PM #54
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How many APPA points would you get per event is the real question. Not sure if it has been asked yet. Not trying to screw up rankings for players if there getting a riduculous amount of points for running mid pack in an open division event and then can never go back and play the divison in which they should be in.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:44 PM #55
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i am pretty sure it is same as d-3 points
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:00 PM #56
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open would be d2 i believe?
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:13 PM #57
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I think forcing players to play psp because theyve dominated a regional series for so long really takes away from the competition. Open would be excessive because then cep would play and win without breaking a sweat.
That's not entirely true. They had a group of guys go down to a SEPS and got 2nd to 65 South(which beat them 5 bodies alive in finals)... so they are beatable just as anyone. Just play good. It's not like you you'd have nothing but pro teams to play against. I think it would elevate the whole division as a whole because everyone would practice harder, and play harder than they ever would have because they aren't playing them in practice, they are playing them when it counts.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:12 AM #58
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Isn't 65 south a pro team too tho???
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:11 AM #59
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No.... 65 south as far as I know doesn't even play national events. Individual they may have, but as a team I'm not sure
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:13 AM #60
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No.... 65 south as far as I know doesn't even play national events. Individual they may have, but as a team I'm not sure
they have played psp but that was in the past, now they mainly just get together and play seps
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:23 PM #61
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. I think it would elevate the whole division as a whole because everyone would practice harder, and play harder than they ever would have because they aren't playing them in practice, they are playing them when it counts.
It could do this, or it could weed teams out if they dont have a fair chance to compete, just saying were playing a regional event, going against pro and D1 teams kinda defeats the purpose of a world cup series prize for lower divisonal teams if they know they cant win, when the idea of playing the series for most plyers I would hope is to get there D3 team to world cup. Dosnt really seem right. if a d1 team wins do they get d1 world cup paid for? If a pro team comes and wins do they get there entry paid for?

Also most teams play this series because PSP is to expensive, so if your logic is just practice more, which idealy is the best option, but some teams cant afford it, (and trust me we would all love to play more paintball lol) and going agaisnt teams with strong programs and great paint deals, how can you compete if your self sustained? Food for thought.
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No.... 65 south as far as I know doesn't even play national events. Individual they may have, but as a team I'm not sure
No, they're pro.
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