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Old 12-04-2012, 07:53 AM #1
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Help identifying this mystery marker

LINK: http://imgur.com/a/HcGHz

I used to work at a paintball field in Buffalo and repair guns. This gun was left for repairs and never picked up. It has an aftermarket trigger/grip that I am also trying to identify. Im assuming its not stock because it has hand tapped holes on the bottom for the tank/regulator assembly.

The gun is set up for compressed air I assume, judging from the regulator pressure. The barrel is a PMI Razor I think, ceramic type. The trigger has an LCD with a terrible viewing angle and its got a multitude of settings: semi, auto, nitro, timer and counter each having settings as well.

Everything I know about paintball guns is self taught so some of the above might be completely wrong

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:11 AM #2
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We still have paintball fields in Buffalo? where?

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It appears to be a spyder clone, similar to the PMI Pirahna markers that were very prevelant in the early '00s.

The front grip is an Expansion chamber, for CO2, and the ASA actually contains the regulator, and appears to possibly be off a older spyder marker

alltogether, it's prolly worth about $50, at most.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:15 AM #3
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this is confusing I was thinking spyder but I don't ever recall and lcd board like that even aftermarket
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:26 AM #4
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Im almost Positive it's a Pirahna...im trying to Google images now. haha
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:37 AM #5
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Well it could be a spyder clone, a lot of the pirahnas, black draguns, diablo, etc. clones had lcd screens, As well as some spyders. No idea about the body style on that marker though
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:09 AM #6
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The field used to be in the Blackrock area on Hertel, same place as an indoor skatepark. Xtreme Wheelz or something similar. Might even still be there, no idea.

I figured it might be a clone because it has no serial/model anywhere at all. No markings or writing of any kind. Cant remember if the exp chamber is from my parts bin or that was the one on there. Am I correct in assuming the reg is set up for compressed? or does Co2 have that high a psi? Ive had a Co2 tank hooked up and it wont even push the ball out the end of the barrel.

Trying to get a list of details before I sell or give it away.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:14 AM #7
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ok, I used to work at the Brass plant around the corner from there. pretty sure they shutdown the paintball portion about 4 years ago

it should work with either CO2 or HPA, as the regulator backs the pressure down from what comes out of the tank (ie: HPA tank is pushing 600psi, reg is set to back it down to 225psi, while C02 tank is pushin 400psi, the reg should still only allow 225PSI through) and those Spyder ASA regs were designed to use either HPA or CO2
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That is a PMI Piranha GSX, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:53 PM #9
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That is a PMI Piranha GSX, if I'm not mistaken.
That's a negative. Barrel may be from one, but the body is way different. The GSX didn't have a front block.

I'm disregarding the barrel and expansion chamber. Those appear to be add-ons. The feedneck and type of flush cocking point to one of the many import clones that flooded the market a while back. They were sold under a couple different names. Heck, if you called them up and made a big enough order they'ed name it whatever you wanted.

A lot were sold under the name Dragun. The Dragun Bonez LCD seems to have all the same key parts, but the body milling is different.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:13 PM #10
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Yeah, that does look a lot like a Black Dragun. Like, really a lot. As I recall you could interchange parts with Spyders with fairly little modification. That X-Chamber and volumizer look like something off of a Spyder Sonix Pro or something similar, but the body really looks to me like a '03-'06 Dragun body. No idea what the exact model is, other than the series.
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The gun is most likely an M3 Black Dragun Sniper, though as Fubarius pointed out Marcasite often made the same markers for several different companies with minor color and parts set differences. If it is a Dragun Sniper it's missing the M3 jewels. I'm not aware of any other Dragun-series guns being sold with this exact milling scheme, but because Taiwan was putting out dozens, if not hundreds of different variations on the Spyder theme it's hard to keep track of them all.

As has been said, expansion chamber and PMI Razor barrel were aftermarket.

Unsurprising that the grip frame was re-tapped for bottomline holes.
Draguns at this time were still using the staggered diagonal pattern that Spyder used, though the Draguns with plastic grip frames used a unique extra-long inline pattern. It could have been that the previous owner at one time wished to mount a different dropforward/bottomline configuration on it and tapped the frame to use the common 3/4" AGD/WGP pattern. I did something similar to an E-Rex once.


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Old 12-05-2012, 10:41 PM #12
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its a real stretch but i kinda looks like a very slimmed down Shocker 4x4!
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its a real stretch but i kinda looks like a very slimmed down Shocker 4x4!
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its a real stretch but i kinda looks like a very slimmed down Shocker 4x4!
you think THAT looks like a shocker 4x4?

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:01 PM #15
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Welllllll... It's a paintball marker, so it has that in common with a shocker.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:13 AM #16
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That is definitely a dragun trigger frame and board, I'm led to believe that means it's a Dragun something or other. I think you got a better answer than mine though, on MCB
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I am starting to think it is a franksteined body.
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I am starting to think it is a franksteined body.
From what?
The body, sight rail, frame, LPC, drop, reg, bolt, and velocity adjuster are all matches for an M3 Black Dragun Sniper. It just looks as though the jewel fell or was pulled off, which seems to have happened to most of the Dragun Snipers I can find with GIS.

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It's definitely one of the m3 black dragun snipers.. M3 made a bunch of spyder clones, the patriot series, and dragun series, then paintball inc. had the name dragun going for a while and made a few similar notably the pi-e1 and pi-e2 black draguns.
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its a real stretch but i kinda looks like a very slimmed down Shocker 4x4!
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its a real stretch but i kinda looks like a very slimmed down Shocker 4x4!
not really, 4x4's are called shoebox shockers for a reason .
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