Ntot12: Nont12

GaryR1984 · 12-07-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Don't get me wrong, I love shooting an NT when it's working, the size is very nice and it shoots as well as a DM (when it's working)...

But it's not BETTER than a DM in any fashion other than size/feel in the hands (which is subjective), and it's sub-par to a DM in several ways (no LPR, unreliable, louder).

Too much in here to disagree with.

The only time I've had a problem with my NT was in super cold weather, oh wait, my DM failed the same day. But wait, there's more! The NT came back easier! It was also much more efficient, and not really louder at all.

GaryR1984 · 12-07-2012, 01:18 PM

Oh, and a lot of guns don't have a LPR that are amazing, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that because it doesn't have a LPR it's sub par.

Paint_hore · 12-07-2012, 01:50 PM

Ive owned plenty dm12's and I cant say they were way quieter than my NT. Different sound signature for sure but overall loudness was close.

Then again I believe I have a special NT as its never gone down and Ill never sell it! I also noticed the can is different in size than the newer nt11's.

DarkRipper · 12-07-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryR1984

Too much in here to disagree with.

The only time I've had a problem with my NT was in super cold weather, oh wait, my DM failed the same day. But wait, there's more! The NT came back easier! It was also much more efficient, and not really louder at all.

Sure, the NT can be more efficient, a couple of pods, yay. If I was stressed about efficiency I'd shoot an SLP g6r and run a 77cu tank.

I've owned a couple of NTs, they worked when they worked, and when they didn't (more often than not) they didn't.

On the other hand, my DM has literally never failed me regardless of weather.
If it DID, I'm MUCH more used to the bolt in the DM, so it's a LOT faster to sort out.

As for your LPR comment, the discussion here was about the NT and the DM, not every other marker in the world that does not have an LPR.

Next, this was between me and Harrison, Blu and Hore added their 2c because we all hate each other (jk, jk), and this OT thread is pretty brutal sometimes.

Finally, I assure you that my dislike of the NT is nothing personal towards YOU or YOUR personal NT.

Have a GREAT day!

Blusylver · 12-07-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

On the other hand, my DM has literally never failed me regardless of weather.
If it DID, I'm MUCH more used to the bolt in the DM, so it's a LOT faster to sort out.

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Haha, ok. It's a paintball.
There's no noticeable difference in the shot between a DM and an NT, all other factors being equal.
It's essentially the same bolt.

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HarrisonJones · 12-07-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

lol... the average maintained DM12 is also approximately 100 THOUSAND times more reliable than ANY NT ever made.
Heavier, sure, maybe a couple of ounces.

Lobs? Shoots straighter? What, are we back to the old mag vs cocker argument?

Haha, ok. It's a paintball.
There's no noticeable difference in the shot between a DM and an NT, all other factors being equal.
It's essentially the same bolt.
The biggest difference between the NT and the DM is the lack of an LPR and using plastic inserts to adjust volume on the bolt in the NT.

the grip frame is closer the the bolt which makes its look like it shoot far straighter. thus why people say it has a flatter shot. Which i agree it does from the perspective you view.

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Originally Posted by Paint_hore

NT = flat
DM = lob

Heavy?!? Harrison needs to workout!!

agree on first part
No im not complaining i dont mind the weight at all i was just simply stating that.

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Originally Posted by Blusylver

Finally i agree with the old man about something... well kinda

Seeing as i own both guns and use them both all the time. The arc of the shoots are the same. However i prefer the nt's shot, maybe its because the marker is shorter.

The dm is the gun i grab when im playing tournaments or scrimmaging, i use nt when im just playing to have fun.

i feel like the NTs shot goes farther then the Dms shot

If i get a Nt10 it will be my main gun tourneys with that team. But Ill still have my geo 3 incase **** breaks lol

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Don't get me wrong, I love shooting an NT when it's working, the size is very nice and it shoots as well as a DM (when it's working)...

But it's not BETTER than a DM in any fashion other than size/feel in the hands (which is subjective), and it's sub-par to a DM in several ways (no LPR, unreliable, louder).

my Nt10 never *****ed out on me

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Sure, the NT can be more efficient, a couple of pods, yay. If I was stressed about efficiency I'd shoot an SLP g6r and run a 77cu tank.

I've owned a couple of NTs, they worked when they worked, and when they didn't (more often than not) they didn't.

On the other hand, my DM has literally never failed me regardless of weather.
If it DID, I'm MUCH more used to the bolt in the DM, so it's a LOT faster to sort out.

As for your LPR comment, the discussion here was about the NT and the DM, not every other marker in the world that does not have an LPR.

Next, this was between me and Harrison, Blu and Hore added their 2c because we all hate each other (jk, jk), and this OT thread is pretty brutal sometimes.

Finally, I assure you that my dislike of the NT is nothing personal towards YOU or YOUR personal NT.

Have a GREAT day!

lol you know we do all hate each other in a loving way

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Originally Posted by Blusylver

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OWNED

DarkRipper · 12-07-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blusylver

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Insert haters gonna hate meme

Paint_hore · 12-07-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Sure, the NT can be more efficient, a couple of pods, yay. If I was stressed about efficiency I'd shoot an SLP g6r and run a 77cu tank.

I've owned a couple of NTs, they worked when they worked, and when they didn't (more often than not) they didn't.

On the other hand, my DM has literally never failed me regardless of weather.
If it DID, I'm MUCH more used to the bolt in the DM, so it's a LOT faster to sort out.

As for your LPR comment, the discussion here was about the NT and the DM, not every other marker in the world that does not have an LPR.

Next, this was between me and Harrison, Blu and Hore added their 2c because we all hate each other (jk, jk), and this OT thread is pretty brutal sometimes.

Finally, I assure you that my dislike of the NT is nothing personal towards YOU or YOUR personal NT.

Have a GREAT day!

Blusylver · 12-07-2012, 07:04 PM

Oh great hore is about to be put on the ignore list again. We were finally a happy family again

GaryR1984 · 12-07-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Sure, the NT can be more efficient, a couple of pods, yay. If I was stressed about efficiency I'd shoot an SLP g6r and run a 77cu tank.

You explain things that you say make a NT sub par, but want to ignore what makes it better? Sounds like someone who just doesn't want to look at all aspects of the gun.

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

I've owned a couple of NTs, they worked when they worked, and when they didn't (more often than not) they didn't.

On the other hand, my DM has literally never failed me regardless of weather.
If it DID, I'm MUCH more used to the bolt in the DM, so it's a LOT faster to sort out.

So all you are saying is that you have spent more time learning the core of the DM and did not care to understand the NT core so that makes the DM a better gun.

Great logic.

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

As for your LPR comment, the discussion here was about the NT and the DM, not every other marker in the world that does not have an LPR.

Again, not willing to make a fair comparison.

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Next, this was between me and Harrison, Blu and Hore added their 2c because we all hate each other (jk, jk), and this OT thread is pretty brutal sometimes.

So brutal.

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Originally Posted by DarkRipper

Finally, I assure you that my dislike of the NT is nothing personal towards YOU or YOUR personal NT.

Have a GREAT day!

You too!

DarkRipper · 12-07-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blusylver

Oh great hore is about to be put on the ignore list again. We were finally a happy family again

No no, I only put arrogant newbies who come into other people's houses and start pointless trolling sessions on ignore.

Hore is fine!

iquadra · 12-08-2012, 12:52 AM

Whores are fine too

Paint_hore · 12-08-2012, 02:26 AM

DR stop being like blu and scaring the new people away!

This OT be dead yo.

DarkRipper · 12-08-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paint_hore

DR stop being like blu and scaring the new people away!

This OT be dead yo.

Just cause Asian left us for partying and women.

Blusylver · 12-08-2012, 09:22 AM

How have scared anyone away?

I used the search feature and didnt find any info.

GaryR1984 · 12-08-2012, 10:33 AM

I'm running as we speak. f this.

Blusylver · 12-08-2012, 10:43 AM

Larry, you need to run to the post office and ship off my barrel

Paint_hore · 12-08-2012, 12:51 PM

Why do you s his d already.

Blusylver · 12-08-2012, 01:14 PM

Not me, i know a fella.

HarrisonJones · 12-08-2012, 03:05 PM

anyone playing tomorrow?

iquadra · 12-08-2012, 03:11 PM

Yessir