Originally Posted by Umami
While I see where you're coming from, what if the difference between someone who identifies as 'right' and libertarian is the source of authority? Instead of authority stemming from the state, they see authority as based in social order. In that sense while you are free to do as you will in the eyes of the state you are not free to do as you will in the eyes of your neighbor.
I think this would maintain the distinction well enough to say that the two dimensions are relatively independent, but requires a sensible discussion of the efficacy of society alone as a tool of maintaining order.
For me, an authority can be either and both. Which would be analogous to the distinction between fascism and monarchy. In most forms of monarchy, the spiritual caste(referencing the code of manu for example) or institution had authority over the monarch. If we are talking about legitimate right wing social orders.
In my understanding, libertarians oppose all forms of authority as it would limit individual liberty/ freedom (depending on your libertarian's view of either term). At least this is the closest consensus I can find coming out of libertarians. What do you think?