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Old 11-28-2012, 10:42 PM #22
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:46 PM #23
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:36 AM #24
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:29 AM #25
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Contrary to popular belief, an Ion is pretty damned simple compared to an Ego and getting to the bolt really isn't much of a chore.
You mean it gets simpler than pulling up and removing the rammer with no tools at all...? Please do not make inaccurate comparisons or ones where you cannot be refuted indefinitely.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:48 AM #26
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:31 PM #27
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:41 PM #28
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:54 AM #29
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You mean it gets simpler than pulling up and removing the rammer with no tools at all...? Please do not make inaccurate comparisons or ones where you cannot be refuted indefinitely.
Speaking of inaccuracies, do you mean the bolt? Way to sound smart.

EDIT: Also, the OP never said it was easier to get to the bolt of an Ion than getting the bolt out of an Ego. He said the Ion was simpler in general, which it is.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:20 AM #30
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^^he did say it was simple compared to an ego. Pulling up removes the bolt, and you can remove the rammer with no tools in several guns......akward. I see that your trying but lets get real, I don't think there is another gun out there that is designed with a more difficult way to get to the bolt than the Ion.

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:19 PM #31
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Speaking of inaccuracies, do you mean the bolt? Way to sound smart.

EDIT: Also, the OP never said it was easier to get to the bolt of an Ion than getting the bolt out of an Ego. He said the Ion was simpler in general, which it is.
Rammer is the part name, which is essentially the bolt, therefore I used it appropriately. And I am sorry, but having owned an Ion and an Ego, I can say with certainty that the Ego pin pull and slide is waaaayyyyy easier than the time I had with my Ion bolt.
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:08 PM #32
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:38 PM #33
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:39 PM #34
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:14 PM #35
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Rammer is the part name, which is essentially the bolt
What? The rammer is not "essentially the bolt" it is a totally different part and is in the bottom tube where the bolt is in the top tube.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:53 PM #36
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What? The rammer is not "essentially the bolt" it is a totally different part and is in the bottom tube where the bolt is in the top tube.
If we really want to spit technicalities, we are both wrong, it's a part of the bolt kit if we are to nitpick incessantly.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:29 PM #37
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:00 PM #38
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If we really want to spit technicalities, we are both wrong, it's a part of the bolt kit if we are to nitpick incessantly.
In the sense that a back cap on a DM is part of the bolt assembly as well then sure. The rammer is not the bolt, blueshifty is correct on this one. There are, as I said, guns though that can have the rammer removed sans tools.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:23 PM #39
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In that case I concede my terminology error. However, my point stands, that there are markers whose bolts are easier to remove than an Ion.
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that there are markers whose bolts are easier to remove than an Ion.
Hell yes there are, i cant believe this was even in question. The ion hands down the the most annoying and tedious gun to remove the bolt. The XE was totally worth price difference when they introduced it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:48 PM #41
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If we really want to spit technicalities, we are both wrong, it's a part of the bolt kit if we are to nitpick incessantly.
Lol. I am not wrong about this in any way whatsoever. There is no "bolt kit" the bolt is a stand alone part, the rammer is a stand alone part and the poppet is a stand alone part.

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In the sense that a back cap on a DM is part of the bolt assembly as well then sure. The rammer is not the bolt, blueshifty is correct on this one. There are, as I said, guns though that can have the rammer removed sans tools.
Rammer is typically an ego terminology (other poppets just use the term "ram") and the DM has no rammer, ram or even a poppet so the "bolt assembly" isn't even comparable.

MacDev cyborgs are stacked tube poppets that don't require tools to remove the ram...
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:05 PM #42
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