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Old 11-29-2012, 08:31 PM #127
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TL, they go down to a 0.683 now, but have not mentioned anything about any smaller sizes.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:34 PM #128
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TL, they go down to a 0.683 now, but have not mentioned anything about any smaller sizes.
Well, an improvement anyway, at least they have 2 useful bores now. Hopefully they come out with a sub .68 bore and I'd love to pick up a set with the .685, .683, and <.680
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:41 PM #129
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We are testing 681 and 679. Will be available in 2013.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:43 PM #130
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Is the carbon tip tapered?

Are you sure this barrel doesn't violate a variety of barrel patents from large industry leaders?
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:57 PM #131
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We are testing 681 and 679. Will be available in 2013.
- How did I miss this?????? This would be SWEET!!!!
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:49 PM #132
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When and where can I buy one of these.
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Old 12-16-2012, 11:58 PM #133
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Is the carbon tip tapered?

Are you sure this barrel doesn't violate a variety of barrel patents from large industry leaders?
dun dun duuuunn.



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Old 12-17-2012, 01:48 PM #134
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We have all the necessary documents, certificates and patents
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:50 PM #135
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We have all the necessary documents, certificates and patents
Care to post them? I can't find any.

I'm a little nervous of purchasing a product like this when the carbon barrel market is impossible to enter without infringing on someone's patents. I don't want to buy this and then find out you guys went bankrupt for shut down because of a lawsuit.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:14 PM #136
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And where you are looking for this patent?
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:19 PM #137
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The USPTO.

Assuming you're posting this on an American paintball forum, catering to a largely American market, and importing products into America, you're aware that you can't infringe on American patents, right?

I'm just looking for factual support for statements you made--if you don't have any IP and you're just trying to make some cool paintball barrels, that's fine, just don't try and pretend that you're going about this in a legitimate fashion.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:41 PM #138
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As a manufacturer producing in the European Union we apply the local patent law. We also have our lawyers examine patents in detail in each country to whom we send our products to avoid any infringements. We do have a patent of our own for each product we manufacture in each country we distribute. We have not intention to impose on others patents or ideas. However, if we have missed something we are very willing to see the numbers of patents that you claim we violate
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:56 PM #139
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Here's an EU Patent for you:
http://www.google.com/patents/EP1726909B1?

And here's the US version of it:
http://www.google.com/patents/US7882883?

Edited to add: These guys are saying it doesn't infringe on anyone's patents, and that the product is made in the EU.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:31 PM #140
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We thank you for your service in keeping the paintball industry correct. It is people like you who help legitimate companies survive by not letting disreputable people get away with stealing others ideas. However our production does not infringe on these patents.
We knew that these patents would be presented to us.
None of our products infringe these patents! Of this we are sure!

All of our products and materials are produced in the European Union.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:31 PM #141
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You should put all the different barrel combos onto your original post.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:28 AM #142
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Shadow Hybrid

One-piece barrel made of high quality aluminum and extra thick, polished carbon fiber.
Carbon fiber 1.5 mm.
Bore sizes: 683 685 687 689 691.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:45 PM #143
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I think people are getting to intense about this , let's talk about this product and leave the legal stuff for the lawyers. I have been paying attention to shadow since the beginning. they seem to be a grass roots company with a certain level of quality that too few companies are committed too, I feel.

Paintball has proven that at some level players are willing to pay extra for their gear if it is a premium product. Too many have opinions that keep some players from the experience of things they might otherwise prefer, look I have been given barrels in the past when I was playing. Some of the best, even after doubting shadow seriously in the beginning, I am again willing to offer them my assistance again. My heart skipped a beat when they said that the new
"Custom Shadow" barrel has the possibility of custom writing on the band of the barrel, maybe this will be the tipping point for me. If this gun thing is for real; part of me hopes a pump gun, and the other part says a spoolie! either way of you guys happen to read this, please consider this my offer of my service; and 20+ seasons of experience to make your marker even better.

When Shadow offers a barrel I'm willing to take a look at, to me that's enough.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:26 AM #144
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These barrels look so clean. However I am a big fan of freak inserts so I am going to purchase a barrel and have it bored for freak inserts.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:45 AM #145
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These barrels look so clean. However I am a big fan of freak inserts so I am going to purchase a barrel and have it bored for freak inserts.
I too am a fan of the freak inserts but I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the control.note.quality on.these barrel. Try it first! Also the new shadow scustom has a 7.5" control bore that give great accuracy. Because gese keys are low priced and have 3 back you may not need he freak. Either way when your ready to get one hit us up and let us know how the freak bore works if you get it
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:47 PM #146
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:28 PM #147
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I'm curious if you guys will have any polished barrels. I'd love a polished gold or neon Green for my G6R and Victory.
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