[diy violence]

Anyone have any information on the new hopper from machine paintball or any pics possibly?

[Silencio]

Wouldn't doubt it if they keep this close to the chest until a few weeks before the release. They experienced a lot of trolling when they announced the vapor early and didn't have a product to show for several months.

A smart move in my opinion. I can appreciate taking the extra time to develop a product that has all the bugs worked out in advance.

I'm sure the Palm Beach Vipers will get them first to do a final smash test, once they get them i'm sure some sneak peaks will start popping up online.

[B Lung]

i have a feeling it may go the same route as Angel Eyes...Hyped up and then fail to come out...

[Silencio]

Originally Posted by B Lung

i have a feeling it may go the same route as Angel Eyes...Hyped up and then fail to come out...

No way. That would be a kiss of death for the company. They have to much invested to willing kill the company off.

WDP was the top of the market for so long that they thought they couldn't be touched. It took Bob Long and Smart Parts (and eventually Dye) to knock them off their pedestal before they realized they actually needed to innovate in order to stay competitive.

By the time the A4 finally came out, all their loyal teams had switched to something else.

Machine is coming into a stacked field and has to keep innovating. To me it seems like they are. The marker is solid. Barrel kit is solid. High hopes for the Loader, but expect it to be solid even it doesn't meet everyone's hyped up expectations.

In order to be a long term viable option, which any company wants, they had to come in pound for pound against DLX, DYE, MacDev, Planet Eclipse, and BLAST.

Would everyone like for them to make a less expensive gear, yeah. But everyone would like for TESLA to make a 30k all electric vehicle too. They will get there, but they had to come out swinging with their high end gear to get the attention.

[Team Misfit]

Originally Posted by Silencio

No way. That would be a kiss of death for the company. They have to much invested to willing kill the company off.

WDP was the top of the market for so long that they thought they couldn't be touched. It took Bob Long and Smart Parts (and eventually Dye) to knock them off their pedestal before they realized they actually needed to innovate in order to stay competitive.

By the time the A4 finally came out, all their loyal teams had switched to something else.

Machine is coming into a stacked field and has to keep innovating. To me it seems like they are. The marker is solid. Barrel kit is solid. High hopes for the Loader, but expect it to be solid even it doesn't meet everyone's hyped up expectations.

In order to be a long term viable option, which any company wants, they had to come in pound for pound against DLX, DYE, MacDev, Planet Eclipse, and BLAST.

Would everyone like for them to make a less expensive gear, yeah. But everyone would like for TESLA to make a 30k all electric vehicle too. They will get there, but they had to come out swinging with their high end gear to get the attention.

Exactly ... Well said

[cfl mike]

Originally Posted by B Lung

i have a feeling it may go the same route as Angel Eyes...Hyped up and then fail to come out...

That sucked because I actually saw prototype angel eyes all the way back in 2004 and I cant believe it still never came out.

[mojoadobo41]

Originally Posted by B Lung

i have a feeling it may go the same route as Angel Eyes...Hyped up and then fail to come out...

i accualy think this hopper will be up there with the rotor and the spire and the z2. apparently the vp of dye who designed the rotor left dye and works for machine now. It was suposed to be released by now, but they are working out final things for it