[HarryBalzak]

Originally Posted by Bluedun

Here is how a spyder operates: Bolt is attached to the hammer with a pin, a spring drives the hammer forward and hits the valve at the same time the bolt travels forward with the hammer and loads a ball. Once the hammer and bolt are in the forward position air is released from the valve and shoots the ball and re-cocks the gun.

Any stacked tube poppit valve works like this: Bolt is attached to the rammer (hammer) with a pin, air from the selinoid drives the hammer forward and hits the valve at the same time the bolt travels forward with the rammer and loads a ball. Once the rammer and bolt are in the forward position air is released from the valve and shoots the ball. Air from the selinoid resets the rammer.

I'm not saying they are not good markers and the selinoid/rammer set-up does allow them to shoot faster and be more reliable.

However as far as the way they deliver the ball down field it is the exact same.

This is kind of like saying a Mercedes is like an AMC Gremlin

[carolinaragetc]

Can't compare a trigger sear/hammer setup to a solenoid/hammer setup...
It's like saying a SLG and DM are the same

[coochiehead444]

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[coochiehead444]

Originally Posted by HarryBalzak

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...ghlight=cyborg

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...ghlight=cyborg

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...ghlight=cyborg

Talking to the first guy,others either didn't want to sell or are not looking for droids, thanks though

Originally Posted by ventvisor

I prolly won't be back here. But I get a kick on how you say the "going rate of". Saying g6r is 500$ish. Which a stock one is roughly. But "your" gun is worth 400$. To anyone but a macdev lover your gun is lucky to hit the 300$ mark. Especially in a trade where your upgrading to a newer gun. Pbn is assbackwards the last couple of years. Just a little rant from a trader. But you should sell your droid for the 400$ it's worth. If you can. Thab just add the cash an start lowballing people.

Thanks for the input, us Macdev owners know there under valued!

Originally Posted by HarryBalzak

This is kind of like saying a Mercedes is like an AMC Gremlin

Were getting off topic here..

[quailman187]

I think you should trade for my cyborg

[blueshifty]

Some people are closer here than others, but droids are about $300-350 used and the G6R goes for around $500 so that's why I suggested $150 is fair. Obviously if the G6R is heavily upgraded or in awesome shape then you'll need to add a little more.

As for the timmy being a glorified spyder... theoretically you may be right to the extent that they both use a hammer, poppet and bolt, but the similarities end there. The spyder is is sear tripped (or clapper solenoid), mechanical, high pressure gun. Timmys, egos, cyborgs, angels (though 3 tube they operate similarly), aka vikings, aliens and a ton of other high end guns use a hammer, poppet and bolt in a slightly different configuration. It is efficient and reliable (unlike a spyder).

[johnk99gm6]

Originally Posted by blueshifty

Some people are closer here than others, but droids are about $300-350 used and the G6R goes for around $500 so that's why I suggested $150 is fair. Obviously if the G6R is heavily upgraded or in awesome shape then you'll need to add a little more.

As for the timmy being a glorified spyder... theoretically you may be right to the extent that they both use a hammer, poppet and bolt, but the similarities end there. The spyder is is sear tripped (or clapper solenoid), mechanical, high pressure gun. Timmys, egos, cyborgs, angels (though 3 tube they operate similarly), aka vikings, aliens and a ton of other high end guns use a hammer, poppet and bolt in a slightly different configuration. It is efficient and reliable (unlike a spyder).

Thank you for having a brain sir!