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Old 11-18-2012, 09:06 AM #1
smilley
 
 
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Unhappy Shockwave board - Millenium settings

Hi,

I am playing in a national tournament in France with Millenium rules with my Axe and a fresh Shockwave board (my original Optimus board was considered as illegal regarding the ramp settings).

I applied this setting:
- ROF: 10 Bps
- Ramp start: 3 balls
- Ramp sustain: 6 bps

The Millenium rules are:
- The first 3 balls must be in semi
- Ramp start: 5 bps (200 ms per trigger pull)
- Ramp sustain: 5 bps (200 ms per trigger pull)

The REF took my gun and made this test:
TP = Trigger pull
- = 100ms (approximatley)
--------- = 900ms (approximatley)

TP--TP--------TP--TP
.1.....1............1.....2 (balls number)

On the 4th trigger pull 2 balls are shot.
Clearly, I have more than 200ms between the 2nd and 3rd trigger pull and the ramp starts on the 4th trigger pull.
So the REF told me: Illegal gun for the tournament. Damned...!

Is someone (Empire Tech ?) have a solution to be compliant with the Millinium Series rules with the Shockwave board ?
Increase the ramp start ?

Thanks.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:30 PM #2
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The solid red light signifies firing mode in programming Shockwave board. 3 blinks corresponds to Millennium firing mode.

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Millennium/Ramping: Marker will shoot in semi-auto mode
equal to the number of shots specified by the Ramp Start
setting, and if the Ramp Sustain ROF (see below for more
information) is achieved, the marker will ramp up to the Max
ROF setting. If the marker is not fired for 1 second the marker
will shoot semi-auto until ramping parameters are achieved.
The default setting meets 2011 Millennium marker rules.

Default: Max ROF = 10.0bps; Ramp Start = 3shots;
Ramp Sustain = 6tps(trigger pulls per second)
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:35 AM #3
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Hi Starks,

Good point.
I missed to mention that i am in Millennium firing mode.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:15 PM #4
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Hi,

I am playing in a national tournament in France with Millenium rules with my Axe and a fresh Shockwave board (my original Optimus board was considered as illegal regarding the ramp settings).

I applied this setting:
- ROF: 10 Bps
- Ramp start: 3 balls
- Ramp sustain: 6 bps

The Millenium rules are:
- The first 3 balls must be in semi
- Ramp start: 5 bps (200 ms per trigger pull)
- Ramp sustain: 5 bps (200 ms per trigger pull)

The REF took my gun and made this test:
TP = Trigger pull
- = 100ms (approximatley)
--------- = 900ms (approximatley)

TP--TP--------TP--TP
.1.....1............1.....2 (balls number)

On the 4th trigger pull 2 balls are shot.
Clearly, I have more than 200ms between the 2nd and 3rd trigger pull and the ramp starts on the 4th trigger pull.
So the REF told me: Illegal gun for the tournament. Damned...!

Is someone (Empire Tech ?) have a solution to be compliant with the Millinium Series rules with the Shockwave board ?
Increase the ramp start ?

Thanks.

Hi Smilley,
This is Jamie from Empire. When making the Shockwave we refered to the following rule which can be seen on the Millennium website here: http://www.millennium-series.com/rul...s=last_changes
Below is what the rules say.

Millennium Series ROF cap in 2009:

In a move to come closer to a world wide standard of rules and procedures and as discussed at the CPL/SPL team owners meeting in Amsterdam, the MS will adopt the same ROF cap (10bps) as used in the PSP. The rules will be updated shortly by following wording of rule ''10.01 Markers''

- The first 3 shots must be semi-auto mode only.
- Markers will be limited to a ROF of 10 balls per second (in 2009 actually 10.5 bps), defined as no two consecutive shots may be timed shorter than 95ms apart (reading on ROF meter of 10.5 bps or less = legal; reading on ROF meter of 10.6 bps or higher = illegal).
- Ramping of shots will be allowed only once 5 bps has been achieved. Then the marker may ramp to 10 bps, but only as long as the 5 bps is continually maintained. Once the trigger is stopped to be activated, only one single additional shot may be discharged.

Clarification: the 5 bps for start/sustain ramping dose not need to be hit physically, it refers to the time delay between trigger activations, which must be at least the equivalent to 5 bps. So a marker may start to ramp up to 10 bps, if (after the first three shots being in semi-auto only) the time delay between 3rd and 4th trigger activation is less than 200ms.



In the clarification it says that time between the 3rd and 4th trigger pull must be less than 200ms, not the 2nd and 3rd. The official that checked the marker may have that rule incorrect or the Millennium website is incorrect.

Does this answer your question?

Thanks,
-Jamie
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:14 AM #5
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Hi Jamie,

That clearly answer my question !!!
Thanks a lot for this info and the link.

I will speak with the head REF at the beginning of the next tournament day to clarify this point.

I knew that Empire made good stuff !!!

Thank you Jamie.
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