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Old 05-13-2011, 01:46 PM #1
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Geo 2.1 efficiency numbers.

After having serious breach gouging issues with my Etek 3, Iím considering purchasing a Geo 2.1 while I wait for planet eclipse. I have always been a fan of spool valves with the exception of diagnosing problems, and efficiency. I noticed that eclipse seriously reduced the amount of seals, which I REALLY liked. The only thing deterring me (aside from the hefty price tag) is the efficiency. I watched a ****** review of the Geo 2 and he shot 6 Ĺ pods (780 balls) @ 300 FPS with a 4200 psi in a 68/4500 tank. My concern is my local field only fills to 3000 and often times by the end of the day I donít even get that much air. I like to carry a Pinokio and 4 pods with me. Tell me if these numbers look right to you guys, I based them off the video I saw:

4200 psi
300 FPS
6 Ĺ pods = 780 balls

780 / 4200 = .1857
.1857 X 3000 = 557
557 balls @ 300 FPS @ 3000 psi

300 / 280 = 1.0714
1.0714 X 557 = 596 balls
596 balls @ 280 FPS @ 3000 psi in a 68/ 4500 tank

This is 4 balls short of 5 pods... but I need 6 should I be looking at different guns?
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:45 PM #2
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why do u need 6?
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:33 PM #3
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There are already multiple Geo2 efficiency threads if you look through this section first off..

But anyway, the numbers that people get tend to span a pretty wide range. I personally get 4-5 pods and a rotor off of my 50/45 filled to 4k. Plenty of claims from people saying on a 68/45 they can do 8-9 pods after dwell tuning and breaking the gun in a bit (10k+ shots). Lots of factors though, such as I don't play pro and usually play on a smaller field so I shoot 270-280fps which saves a bit of air.. and some guys have claims to have their dwell as low as 7ms which helps as well.

If you look around through those other threads that I mentioned you should find some videos and some other numbers you can compare and get a feel for what you're in for.

Picking up a used Geo2 or 2.1 off someone here that's in great shape might be your best bet just so if it doesn't live up to your standards you didn't shell out $1250 for a new one. Good luck though and if you do go with the Geo2 I'm sure you'll love it as I have!

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Old 05-14-2011, 03:53 AM #4
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I'm still not having much luck finding information about people filling to 3000psi. That's all we have on my field, I just want to be able to fling a pinokio and four pods if I decide to on a 68/ 3000. If people who own the marker are confident i can do that, I'll go get one.
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:05 AM #5
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I wouldn't make your decision off of one person's numbers.

Last Sunday, using a teammate's Geo2 I was getting these numbers:

4500 hot fill
Chrono: 295 +/- 2
Good paint/bore match

4 pods, with approx. 2100-2200 psi left.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:55 PM #6
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I have the same issue. 3000 only at my field and I don't want to bottom out in the middle of a game. I am willing to Tweek my markers dwell, bore matching, etc( a pain as I live in Houston) where I will have to match a couple times in the day. But I have not pulled the trigger on buying the Geo 2.0 so just wondering if I should be looking at another marker instead.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:54 PM #7
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I'm still not having much luck finding information about people filling to 3000psi. That's all we have on my field, I just want to be able to fling a pinokio and four pods if I decide to on a 68/ 3000. If people who own the marker are confident i can do that, I'll go get one.
Regardless if you stay on a 68/3000 or a 68/4500, they are the same CI size and you get the same 3000psi fill. If you bore match your paint, shoot around 285fps, and dwell tune just a little, I bet you could get 4 pods and a pinokio.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:37 PM #8
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got 1330 from my 68/4500 hot filled 4k. avg low 280s playing indoor. running my dwell at 10.5
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:36 PM #9
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why do u need 6?
6 is basically a hopper + 4 pods
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Shooting a heavily used 2.1:

Dwell: 13.8
Lubed lightly
Underbored barrel
4400 fill, hot
Rotor + 8 pods

caveats- This gun is WELL broken in. I purchased it with over 300K on the shot counter.
The drivetrain O-rings have been replaced by Chris of PE.
As well as a new manifold body & air restrictor ball.
Otherwise, the gun is stock. This is how I received the gun from another player that purchased it from a Crew player.

Why mess with something good?
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