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Old 11-15-2012, 07:02 AM #1
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Lightbulb Israel aggression against Hamas?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/...html?hpt=hp_c2

A 13 year old boy was killed, most of the bombings are in Gaza so far. Syrian rebels have moved into villages near the Golan Heights, who are to be "dealt with." Strange, I thought they were originally allowed to be there?

Israel claims rockets entered their country first, and the Palestinians claim that Israel went on a bombing run first, and yet again. So someone is lying.

Nothing really ever changes in Israel and the surrounding area.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:23 AM #2
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Cool story. Want the violence to end? Send every home in the middle east a flat screen TV, a satellite TV subscription and wait a decade. Islam will become irrelevant faster than you can say I'd like a number 4 with grilled onions and a coke. Probably cheaper than diplomacy and military intervention.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:27 AM #3
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The Palestinians would still be fighting for a place to put that TV.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:35 AM #4
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Not if u put it out of the country so they move.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:46 AM #5
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Crass consumerism destroys culture. In a decade or two, the Palestinians won't have enough strong ethnic ties to fight the inevitable creation of the MEU.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:49 AM #6
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Not if u put it out of the country so they move.
Exactly. Funnel enough Money into surrounding areas to improve the standard of living enough to where the prospect of moving is far too enticing for Palestinians to resist. Israel will then be made to sign free trade agreements with the surrounding nations and the entire region is pacified under the iron law of buying stuff. Take that Bembridge scholars!

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Old 11-15-2012, 11:20 AM #7
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So Hamas likes taking BM-21 Grad missile trucks and just peppering indiscriminate areas of Israel. Whereas Israel uses actual technology and puts pretty decent direct strikes onto suspected or confirmed Hamas elements. And yet Israel is *****ed at?

Sure Israel is encroaching on Palestinian homes by bulldozing and forcefully evicting people to put up Israeli homes, but Hamas is doing a **** job of saying "no". I think it's funny that Israel is calling this operation pillar of cloud in reference to a manifestation of God in the Torah.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:55 AM #8
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Sure Israel is encroaching on Palestinian homes by bulldozing and forcefully evicting people to put up Israeli homes, but Hamas is doing a **** job of saying "no".
The question of whether Palestinians should saying taking any action aside, how should they go about saying "no"?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:17 PM #9
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Get rid of the Jew lobby in D.C. and have Obama tell Israeli no more money until you stop bulldozing Palestinian homes.

If the Palestinians took up arms they would all be dead.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:19 PM #10
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Crass consumerism destroys culture. In a decade or two, the Palestinians won't have enough strong ethnic ties to fight the inevitable creation of the MEU.
They don't have them now!! They have zero ties with any country in the Middle East beyond their struggle with Israel. Not a single nation has offered them land. No one wants them. They have always been the unwanted step child of the Middle East.
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They don't have them now!! They have zero ties with any country in the Middle East beyond their struggle with Israel. Not a single nation has offered them land. No one wants them. They have always been the unwanted step child of the Middle East.
I think it would be easier to move to a neighboring islamic country then live in a semi war zone.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:37 PM #12
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They don't have them now!! They have zero ties with any country in the Middle East beyond their struggle with Israel. Not a single nation has offered them land. No one wants them. They have always been the unwanted step child of the Middle East.
I meant it as a "Palestinian" group identity. As it stands, they would probably have an easier time assimilating with the surrounding Arab countries than they would: A) Fighting a lost cause against a superior nation B) Assimilating into said nation.

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I think it would be easier to move to a neighboring islamic country then live in a semi war zone.
lol, they won't let them

The Middle East is not one big happy family of Arabs. Indeed, most Arab people don't recognize the term or at least are very meh about it. They view each other in terms of families and tribes. Most of the nations in the ME can be, and frequently are, divided in to various tribes and families. The only thing that even remotely links them all is Islam. And that has slowly been incorporated into the tribal structure, as is shown by the Wahhabi movement.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:49 PM #14
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Easier than the alternatives.

At least the Arabs still have a sane view of race.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:52 PM #15
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Get rid of the Jew lobby in D.C. and have Obama tell Israeli no more money until you stop bulldozing Palestinian homes.

If the Palestinians took up arms they would all be dead.
Yea that usually doesn't work out so well for Achmet in the end, as history has shown, despite what you hear on NPR.

These people aren't fighting over homes being bulldozed, they've been at war for 3,000 years, it's not going to stop for any reason until the other side is eliminated.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:20 PM #16
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These people aren't fighting over homes being bulldozed, they've been at war for 3,000 years, it's not going to stop for any reason until the other side is eliminated.
And it's the cold, hard truth.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:47 PM #17
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Easier than the alternatives.

At least the Arabs still have a sane view of race.
Sure they do. That's why they ship in Ethiopians and Somalis in to the Emirate States for lower class jobs
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:49 AM #18
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blood thirsty Israelis blowing up peaceful rockets
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:00 AM #19
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Sure they do. That's why they ship in Ethiopians and Somalis in to the Emirate States for lower class jobs
Those guys get ****ED.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:05 AM #20
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:24 AM #21
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Those guys get ****ED.
Yep. They're treated like **** and paid next to nothing. It's basically steel mill/coal mining from the 1870s - 1920s in the US.
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