Originally Posted by Pooty51
Let me clear up a little something before it starts
I am sure some people don’t know the below info anyways.
I will go over the parts.
The bolt = Its the same dims as the stock bolt. There is never a problem with the bolt. You can use it with the stock parts with no messing around with the orings.
The bolt guide = It also has the same oring dims as the stock parts. The bolt guide is not a issue. Work with all bolts
The can = The first NDZ can has been around for years. NDZ made the inner oring grooves on the looser side. This was to compensate for the size of the luxe 1 bolts and the fsdo they had before I made the spring mod a mod that fixed the fsdo issue. That being said, the V1 NDZ low pressure cans would not work with most bolts with urethane stock orings. So only black oring must be used. Problem... If people didn’t know this info they were in for some fun.. I myself didn’t like this either. Costs me money in the long run fixing peoples oring fitment.
The fix, I sent NDZ a 2.0 can and I had them change the inner can dims to the same 2.0 can dims.
So the V2 can that I sell is the same as the 2.0 can.
If you have a V1 can and don’t know your oring fitment then a quick fix is to simply add a stock 2.0 can to the pooty parts and your running.
So this is what I wanted and what was done.
SOOO, In this thread people will say oring fitment is needed to get the pooty set to work.
Not true with the V2 set now.
So the feedback you need is feedback for the V2 Pooty set and not the V1 set. Smoothness, shot count and kick will also change if your oring fitment is off. I do my best and have made many oring fitment videos to help out people with oring fitment for the past V1 parts. I pay the return shipping to get customers parts working, so in the end stuff that doesn't work is not a good thing for the customer or me. So the changes were needed for sure.
The two most important things for people that have the V1 NDZ cans=
1 = Bolt sail oring...Must fit nice and snug. Out of all the orings this single oring must be the only one that fits tighter then the rest.
2= High reg pressure.. The luxe will half cycle in some cases if you simply swap out the stock core for the pooty core. Why? Your stock core runs off a higher reg pressure. The pooty parts cant run off a high reg pressure.
You should always turn off your reg completely. No air going to your luxe. Then dry fire the luxe with the eyes off and increase the reg pressure a little at a time until it fires. Then increase your reg pressure until you hit 285 or so. I have this info in the Pooty parts paperwork also.
The V2 parts also must have the reg zeroed out. Very important!
With that being said do you believe this is the sole reason why Luxe markers tend to have a harder time cycling with the spring/pooty combinations with the FT screw installed if on a older ndz firing can? I have been unable to get my Luxe to cycle when using a full pooty core w/FT installed however with the FT out it cycles great. I can get it to cycle with a higher dwell and stock internals w/FT installed but my ideal setup to provide the smoothest shot possible would be as follows
NDZ Pooty Can>early version
NDZ Pooty Bolt Guide>No insert installed
The nox bolt in the stock can+ft is the quietest luxe shot I have ever heard however I cant run this w/the sprung setup without fsdo and in-consistancy.
If you strongly believe it would simply be due to tolerances on the firing can which can sometimes be corrected with oring selection although tedious I would be more than willing to try a newer style can so my oring selection did not have to be so pesky. I want reliabaility but I also want the quietest/smoothest shot I can possibly squeeze out of this marker which means running the lower operating pressure internals w/FT screw installed.
PS: Yes ive tried alot of oring combinations and test fitted the orings but the marker just refuses to cycle using the dream combination of parts I mentioned above. I dont believe there isnt a combination of luxe internals I have not owned, tested, tinkered with at this point. I also have/ofton use the ndz sprung bolt but the same theory applys. It only works consistantly if the FT is out but man with that FT installed on the right setup and barrel combination the gun will literally just whisper each cycle
Also, while were on the subject is there a volume difference between the ndz/pooty can & dlx 2.0 can?