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11-13-2012, 01:48 PM
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#799
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Affiliated
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sussex County
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Primordial Performance is done, FDA raid cleared them out
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I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.
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11-13-2012, 03:14 PM
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#800
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hooah hooah hooah hooah
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
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Yep, all their "good" stuff is out of stock, I just checked.
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11-13-2012, 07:17 PM
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#801
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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Thinking about just going to smartpowders and making my own preworkout instead of buying one of these prop blend tubs, however not sure exactly what I should have in it. I really specifically enjoy the energizing and enhanced concentration aspects from my pre.
Shopping list:
- Creatine mono (obvi)
- Beta Alanine
- Caffeine
- taurine
- L-Arginine
- L-Tyrosine
I don't know much about the last 3 ingredients, but if any of that is a waste of money or if you have a good substitution idea please speak up
Thanks 
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11-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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#802
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Crush Your Enemies
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Deepest Circle of Hell
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need that 1,3 D and Sulb
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Genetics.
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11-13-2012, 08:10 PM
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#803
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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sulb is awfully expensive and 1,3-dymeth is unavailable in powdered form from smartpowders? and banned everywhere else
Last edited by theDJ : 11-13-2012 at 08:15 PM.
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11-13-2012, 08:16 PM
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#804
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PBN's Dick
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pittsburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theDJ
Thinking about just going to smartpowders and making my own preworkout instead of buying one of these prop blend tubs, however not sure exactly what I should have in it. I really specifically enjoy the energizing and enhanced concentration aspects from my pre.
Shopping list:
- Creatine mono (obvi)
- Beta Alanine
- Caffeine
- taurine
- L-Arginine
- L-Tyrosine
I don't know much about the last 3 ingredients, but if any of that is a waste of money or if you have a good substitution idea please speak up
Thanks 
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Add crystal light packets to the list.
Simple solution to the DMAA...buy the 100 caps @ 20mg a piece they have there, and then break them open and pour them into your powder. Bam, 2000mg of dmaa in a tub.
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11-13-2012, 08:40 PM
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#805
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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Thanks for the help, and actually found sulb for cheap as well.
so far looking like:
- Creatine mono
- Sulb
- DMAA
- Beta Alanine
- Caffeine
- taurine
- L-Arginine
- L-Tyrosine
seems like a pretty long list though, what would you guys eliminate? or are all of those essential
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11-13-2012, 08:55 PM
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#806
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Come at me bro.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Frederick MD.
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How much caffeine?
Why Beta Alanine?
How much taurine? Why only in pre-workout?
How much creatine? Why are you taking it with caffeine?
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11-14-2012, 05:45 AM
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#807
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Affiliated
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sussex County
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Taurine is always good
Lose Arginine
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I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.
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11-14-2012, 11:29 AM
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#808
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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I got rid of the B.A. and Arginine. Everything else was copped
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11-14-2012, 01:24 PM
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#809
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It is what it is
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Large xtend is on MuscleHQ for $45, not sure if that is a good deal
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11-14-2012, 01:25 PM
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#810
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Affiliated
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sussex County
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About $20 off retail
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Ogrestrength.com
OgrestrengthPharmacology.com
I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.
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11-19-2012, 06:03 PM
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#811
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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yesterday took 320mg sulbutiamine by itself preworkout (not capped) tasted like **** but manned through it in hopes of feeling some great effects. noticed nothing.
today took 650mg sulbutiamine by itself preworkout, tasted 2x as bad and didn't notice anything again.
figured if i took it alone i would be able to distinguish its effects from other things, but does it only work along with stims or something? shouldn't there be noticeable effects at this dose by itself?
it's too late for me to return it since it's opened, but theres 99/100g left in the package so might try and sell it :/ disappointed. although tomorrow i may try a 1g dose to test it out
Last edited by theDJ : 11-19-2012 at 06:08 PM.
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11-19-2012, 06:52 PM
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#812
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It is what it is
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I notice a slight effect from it alone, along the lines of how a 5hr energy feels. Has much more effect when taken with a stim though. I started buying capped, there ois hardly any price difference between the two to justify going with powder.
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"Originally posted by ']TSS[ Dake: Is anything really TMI in ST:F at this point?"
"Originally posted by Lurker27: inb4 pelt says you're still fat"
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11-19-2012, 07:04 PM
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#813
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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how high of a dose?
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11-19-2012, 07:31 PM
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#814
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You will know fear.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theDJ
yesterday took 320mg sulbutiamine by itself preworkout (not capped) tasted like <del>****</del> but manned through it in hopes of feeling some great effects. noticed nothing.
today took 650mg sulbutiamine by itself preworkout, tasted 2x as bad and didn't notice anything again.
figured if i took it alone i would be able to distinguish its effects from other things, but does it only work along with stims or something? shouldn't there be noticeable effects at this dose by itself?
it's too late for me to return it since it's opened, but theres 99/100g left in the package so might try and sell it :/ disappointed. although tomorrow i may try a 1g dose to test it out
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I find that it focuses stim energy really well. I concur that alone it's almost useless until you dose in the 1500mg range and there is no good reason to do that, and some decent reasons not to.
combine with caffeine and 1,3dm and you WILL feel a difference at 500mg. I've done all the binary combinations of that triangle and the full combination is far more potent than any 2.
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11-19-2012, 08:10 PM
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#815
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puzzling
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 562
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lurk, in combination with caffeine and 1,3-dmaa would a dose lower than 500mg be noticeable? say 300mg? or is there pretty much no reason to go any lower.
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11-21-2012, 11:48 AM
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#816
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It is what it is
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http://www.musclehq.com/
Got all excited, then noticed how may carbs
I hate when they go full retard with the nutrition label.
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"Originally posted by ']TSS[ Dake: Is anything really TMI in ST:F at this point?"
"Originally posted by Lurker27: inb4 pelt says you're still fat"
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11-22-2012, 09:13 AM
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#817
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It is what it is
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$36 Myofusion 5lbs
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/g...eries-5lb.html
10% off custom mixes from TrueProtein
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"Originally posted by ']TSS[ Dake: Is anything really TMI in ST:F at this point?"
"Originally posted by Lurker27: inb4 pelt says you're still fat"
Last edited by Pump Revolution : 11-22-2012 at 09:24 AM.
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11-23-2012, 08:03 PM
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#818
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superhero for hire
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Minnesota
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http://proteinfactory.com/shop/mega/
Legit stuff? Anybody try this before or anything from them?
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11-24-2012, 09:47 AM
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#819
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black AND white
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: never move to, NC
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never heard of them before ^^^
but i did some common knowledge searching around the site to see if its legit and it does seem good to go
inb4 rat feces
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