[happy7833]

empire ftw. So comfortable. the LTD's are a bit pricey but worth every penny. has a microfiber built in too. Super handy. so much padding but not enough to slow you down.

[isaiahliepold]

I really liked the angle pro x pants but the quality wasent very good. They breath good and are comfortable.

[vincib]

I have the valkyn and would say they show the wear and signs of not being able to hold up. And they have been treAted lightly.

[2pipes]

Dye is best. Various members of my family have different years of their pants. Even have c4's about 8 years old in great condition and used for tournaments. Have c9 and just bought a pair of c12's. I declare I am a fanboy cause they are great and last for years. I have other companies gear too and dye holds up the longest.

[jtguy2269]

empire LTD's