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Old 11-06-2012, 10:10 AM #1
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Re: Winter Settings

It's that time of year again kids, so brush up on the no-brainers that could transform your Winter play:

http://www.planeteclipse.com/post/v/434

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:07 PM #2
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Thanks Nicky T! Always looking out.

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:33 PM #3
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:10 AM #4
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Cold for you is like our Summer though!
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:28 AM #5
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Nicky, how do i tune my Geo3 to shoot in -10/-20 celsius?
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:43 AM #6
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Winter Settings

It is fast approaching that time of year again, not just the time that the big guy in the red suit shows up, but also when players struggle to squeeze the level of performance that they have become accustomed to in the Summer months out of their markers and an array of issues associated with playing in colder conditions begin to appear on the forums and in your in-boxes.

If you are based in an area of the World where it is not currently Winter, then sit tight on the information below as it will come into play sooner or later

Below is a check-list of potential causes that can contribute to the deterioration of a markers performance in Winter. We would welcome you to circulate this information amongst players facing such issues and it might help to alleviate the influx of seasonal support requests:

1. Battery
Public enemy number one in this scenario (and often the last to be blamed) is the humble 9 volt battery pack. You will hear citations of “my battery indicator reads full” and ” I changed it last week” but don’t take this as gospel as the voltage that the battery indicator reads is not the same as the charge that the battery holds. There is also nothing to guarantee that a battery will be good as soon as you unwrap it. We always advise customers to use a reputable brand of ALKALINE battery in their Eclipse marker. Remember; “If in doubt, ask the customer to swap the battery out!

2. Lube
Over-lubing, under-lubing and using the incorrect type of lubricant can all contribute to the demise of your equipment in Winter. At the recent PSP World Cup we experienced several markers through our Technical Support Booth
that clearly showed the incorrect lubricant had been used and caused a variety of related issues including components within the solenoid sticking. Always advise that the owner of the marker refers to their owner’s manual for guidance on where and how to lube their marker correctly, and advocate that Eclipse Oil or Grease is exclusively used accordingly.

3. Dwell Setting
We often encounter users that have tuned their marker for what they consider to be the “optimal” settings and may have reduced their dwell setting considerably from stock to enhance the efficiency of their marker. Whilst enhanced efficiency is all well and good this may well have removed the inbuilt margin of error that we provide with the stock/factory settings for reliable operation and should be checked prior to proceeding further. Raising the dwell even slightly will also aid to alleviate inconsistency issues.

4. Solenoid Flow Restrictors
A recent trend in Eclipse Markers is to facilitate to ability for the user to determine the level of air-flow through the solenoid assembly via single or double Solenoid Flow Restrictors (SFRs). Much like the dwell setting recommendations above, users will often lower their SFR settings (restrict the flow) for smooth shooting markers but once again this could compromise the reliable operation of the marker, especially in Winter weather conditions. Opening up the restrictors to increase the flow will help to combat this.

5. Solenoid Power Settings
Certain Eclipse Markers have the ability to adjust the power going from the circuit board to the solenoid assembly by switching between High and Low power levels. Winter weather conditions generally tend to dictate that the solenoid is more power hungry and as such switching to a high power setting now is a shrewd move as the only downside is marginally lower battery life in a trade for reliable operation.

6. Barrel Bore Size
Paint to barrel match is another factor that needs to be considered, especially when attempting to shoot paintballs that are not of a specific formula to match the season. If in any doubt it is always better to use an over-sized barrel when playing in colder conditions.

We hope that the above information helps you all to assist your customers further over the winter months
This should be a sticky. Im suprised how many people try to use there settings in the cold. When they have issues then complain that their marker is garbage because it can shoot in the cold.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:26 PM #7
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awesome read, thanks for the help i'll probably need it in the future
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:32 PM #8
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Hey Nicky,

What's the best way to set the ego11 (dart) up for shooting brittle paint?

Was shooting older Dxs silver today and didn't have breaking issues until it got colder (low 60's), but would also like to know for when it comes time to shoot brittle tourney paint, that I wouldn't get at a regular practice.

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Old 11-08-2012, 04:44 AM #9
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Hi guys,

This thread is in danger of evolving into an "ask for the best way to set up my marker" style thread; that was not it's intended purpose.

If you are suddenly breaking paint in colder weather conditions, PLEASE refer to the above information and adhere to that advice first and foremost.

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Old 11-08-2012, 07:24 AM #10
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Hey Nicky,

What's the best way to set the ego11 (dart) up for shooting brittle paint?

Was shooting older Dxs silver today and didn't have breaking issues until it got colder (low 60's), but would also like to know for when it comes time to shoot brittle tourney paint, that I wouldn't get at a regular practice.

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Dwell: 14
Sfr : 1/7
Lpr: 2 turns in
Fps ~285
TBH if your shooting warmer weather paint when its getting cold no matter what you do your going to experience barrel brakes. You can help by over boring and upping your dwell so you can lower your hpr but your never going to completely eradicate the issue.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:21 AM #11
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The best setting during the winter is to use a pump marker.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:13 PM #12
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This is exactly what I needed. Thanks for sharing this!
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:20 AM #13
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This is exactly what I needed. Thanks for sharing this!
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:28 AM #14
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Good read for someone waiting on their new baby in the mail You wouldn't think it gets cold in the desert, but I'm currently all bundled up inside
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:07 PM #15
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I hope this helps tomorrow. I'm using a 06 Dark ego with violent Sl3, Cure3+, and shaft4 kit. Paint is Valken redemption and my dwell is 11.5 with pretty much stock settings otherwise

Well I just got back and I didn't break one ball all day. I did however have to back out my HPR all the way to get up to 280 with my .681 shaft4 back. Doesn't make sense and yes I flipped the piston seat prior to playing. Maybe just need to grease my regs? I don't have any on hand, so I couldn't do it today. It was still consistent though.
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It's that time of year again kids, so brush up on the no-brainers that could transform your Winter play:

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Thank you! I was looking for this but could not find it lol guess I didn't look hard enough
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