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Old 11-03-2012, 08:04 AM #1
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Newb questions about Vanguard

I know very little about Vangaurd in general. They make high end markers a spoolie and a poppet gun, but beyond that not sure.
1)where are they made? UK I see.
2)is maintenance extensive and how is reliability?
3)is it difficult to find techs and or parts in US if I run into a problem I can't fix myself
4)how do they compare to PE markers technology, etc?

Thanks in advance just trying to more info before a future purchase.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:37 AM #2
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They are made in the UK but Frank Connel, owner of vanguard has been moving operations to the US which will make things much easier.

In terms of maintenance, the creed is pretty easy and it's like any other poppit. The demon however was a bit of a hassle at the start since it was a new platform and all the kinks needed to be worked out. With the release of the 2013 demon you now don't have to deal with a QEV, has a 3 piece can (?) and it's much more reliable and user friendly. The spring that was added to the bolt system also makes it less prone to bolt stick and an overall better shooter.

Parts are also quite easy to get if you contact frank Connell. And since things are moving over to the US, shipping times will be much faster and hassle free.

In comparison to other markers I would say it definitely holds up in most aspects. One thing I do think puts the demon behind a little is the trigger. There really needs to be a better feeling trigger made for it from factory some day. With removing the spring though it gets better but it has a heavy feel to it usually. But in everything else it's good. Great smooth shot (comparable to clone vx or a luxe) and it gets around 11 pods off a 68/4500 which is amazing for a spoolie.

Overall vanguard has really stepped up their game with their demon and technology. They make great reliable markers and are definitely worth what you pay for. Try one out at your local field, see if you like it and buy one if so! You won't be displeased.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:19 AM #3
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They are made in the UK but Frank Connel, owner of vanguard has been moving operations to the US which will make things much easier.

In terms of maintenance, the creed is pretty easy and it's like any other poppit. The demon however was a bit of a hassle at the start since it was a new platform and all the kinks needed to be worked out. With the release of the 2013 demon you now don't have to deal with a QEV, has a 3 piece can (?) and it's much more reliable and user friendly. The spring that was added to the bolt system also makes it less prone to bolt stick and an overall better shooter.

Parts are also quite easy to get if you contact frank Connell. And since things are moving over to the US, shipping times will be much faster and hassle free.

In comparison to other markers I would say it definitely holds up in most aspects. One thing I do think puts the demon behind a little is the trigger. There really needs to be a better feeling trigger made for it from factory some day. With removing the spring though it gets better but it has a heavy feel to it usually. But in everything else it's good. Great smooth shot (comparable to clone vx or a luxe) and it gets around 11 pods off a 68/4500 which is amazing for a spoolie.

Overall vanguard has really stepped up their game with their demon and technology. They make great reliable markers and are definitely worth what you pay for. Try one out at your local field, see if you like it and buy one if so! You won't be displeased.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:33 AM #4
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It's very easy to get parts and service. I have the full line if parts in stock. I also do full service repair and warranty work. When you're ready for that purchase, let me know.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:46 AM #5
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The 2013 Demons are fantastic markers. 2012's - hmmm if you can get one without a QEV issue then great, but i'd just upgrade it to the 2013 internals to be on the safe side.

The Creed is a complex lady at times, but generally very good.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:09 PM #6
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