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Old 11-02-2012, 08:38 PM #673
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And that's worse than just selling the exact same gun?
Ummmm.....yeah. It is.
At least PE is just continuing to sell whats already on the market. Their most current version. Not releasing a marker, calling it new but it being the exact same as the last version.
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:21 PM #674
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Both Dye and PE make great markers, its all personal preference. There are improvements from the 07-13 DM and improvements from the 07-12 Ego. Pick your preference and go out and shoot people.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:13 PM #675
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Hadn't seen the DM12 and 13 next to each other. Pics from Pax.

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Old 11-02-2012, 10:20 PM #676
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That reminds me... they need to make a Paxson fade like they did with the NT.

Also, inb4 couldn't tell they were different guns.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:06 AM #677
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Wow. a smaller window?
that's it?
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:27 AM #678
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Wow. a smaller window?
that's it?
Looks like lol. Emblem thing looks a little different too I guess.

I think the earlier models without the window, plastic (rubber?) looking piece above the reg, and smaller logo look a lot better
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:10 AM #679
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:55 PM #680
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:06 PM #681
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Honestly, I don't see it. The 12 and 13 are almost exactly identical, I think dye needs to do what PE did. Quit releasing a new marker every year, and try to come up with a new design, something different that will wow people...and i'm not talking about the DAM...
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:13 PM #682
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:16 PM #683
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Honestly, I don't see it. The 12 and 13 are almost exactly identical, I think dye needs to do what PE did. Quit releasing a new marker every year, and try to come up with a new design, something different that will wow people...and i'm not talking about the DAM...
Maybe dye did do what pe did. But with style. Instead of keeping the same marker the same for a few years they just did alittle spice here and there so its not the same body as last year but they are keeping it the same like what pe is doing.
Every one *****es that there's nothing new each year with dye but no one is doing that with pe. At least dye is doing something so its not the same looking each year like the ego is.
What should be the problem and what people ***** about is how people drop the prices on markers bc there's a diff number at the end of the name. If people keep saying its the same as last years then why drop the price on last year model. Why doesn't that happin with the ego? It's been the same for a few years yet hasn't dropped. It's bc people are stupid
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:18 PM #684
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Maybe dye did do what pe did. But with style. Instead of keeping the same marker the same for a few years they just did alittle spice here and there so its not the same body as last year but they are keeping it the same like what pe is doing.
Every one *****es that there's nothing new each year with dye but no one is doing that with pe. At least dye is doing something so its not the same looking each year like the ego is.
What should be the problem and what people ***** about is how people drop the prices on markers bc there's a diff number at the end of the name. If people keep saying its the same as last years then why drop the price on last year model. Why doesn't that happin with the ego? It's been the same for a few years yet hasn't dropped. It's bc people are stupid
You try to Make the ego look different without adding weight. Also pe has changed the internals and updated bolts on their markers where as dye hasn't done anything.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:43 PM #685
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You try to Make the ego look different without adding weight. Also pe has changed the internals and updated bolts on their markers where as dye hasn't done anything.
Really? What changed between the Ego 7 and 8 on the bolt system? I believe all they did was change to a QEV block because the 07 qev wasn't very reliable. Ego 9-10? Nothing changed internally other than the solenoid because the 09 was tearing itself apart if it didn't have a plank kit.

DM7-8 they got rid of the eye covers. DM8-9 was a pretty big change for DMs. internally. 10-11 they got a new grip frame. 11-12 they made the bolt tooless. All minor changes like the Egos. But the DM bolt system really doesn't need to be updated.

What's so bad about making a minor change in milling to keep it looking a little different, and adding in some new colors? If you have a DM12 don't sell it for $700, sell it for 900-1000 since it's pretty much the same anyways. PE kept selling the Ego11 but started calling it an EgoS and just offered a couple new colors. It's the same thing but they didn't advertise it.

Like justjoe said, people are stupid. They're gonna complain no matter what.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:00 PM #686
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And these "minor" changes are exactly why pe moved away from yearly releases. We all have our opinions on this and mine is that dye needs to move away from yearly releases like pe has. I personally don't care to much for either company because of these minor changes that they have been making.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:13 PM #687
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And these "minor" changes are exactly why pe moved away from yearly releases. We all have our opinions on this and mine is that dye needs to move away from yearly releases like pe has. I personally don't care to much for either company because of these minor changes that they have been making.
Okay, so if PE sells the same Ego for 3 years for the same price and Dye sells marginally different guns for 3 years for the same price than they are doing essentially the same thing.

Stop complaining about guns you aren't planning to buy. Believe me, at this point everyone reading the thread realizes that it is just the same gun with new milling. Your continued posting is not going to stop anyone from buying a new DM. It's pointless, idiotic, and exhausting.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:15 PM #688
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Okay, so if PE sells the same Ego for 3 years for the same price and Dye sells marginally different guns for 3 years for the same price than they are doing essentially the same thing.
It's just not true. PE lowers their price and don't try to pass it off as a new gun.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:13 PM #689
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Ummmm.....yeah. It is.
At least PE is just continuing to sell whats already on the market. Their most current version. Not releasing a marker, calling it new but it being the exact same as the last version.
Hmmmm, I don't believe dye actually said anything other than dm13, they didn't actually say improved efficiency, better shot, they just said dm13. This is a new marker, it is priced the same as the old marker. Go cry and be scared of change someplace else. Dye is not ripping anyone off, dye is not lieing to anyone. Who cares if they update their guns looks every year, you're not paying more, you're not getting shafted. If indeed it is the same thing than why are you pissed, it doesn't cost more. It's just like car companies releasing the same exact car for multiple years but only updating minor things, are you *****ing at them for it? God damn you people are all so ignorant. PE has their business strategy, dye has theirs. Neither company is shafting you, ***** ***** ***** some more.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:26 PM #690
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It's just not true. PE lowers their price and don't try to pass it off as a new gun.
price lower that is easilly made up for in their lack of needing to retool their factories, redesign their cad files, pay engineering costs, etc... At least dye has to do a little bit of investment to redesign the looks of their marker. It's a mtrix, it's always been a matrix. All that changes is the year, not the gun, sometimes there are major upgrades, sometimes there aren't. But again, pe is no golden angel, neither is dye. Give it a ****ing break with all the hate bandwagoning.
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This looks exactly the same as the DM12 maybe with better internals but Id rather have the 12
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Sweet paint on those. I have the DM 12 Tiger lime green, but the new colors are really nice.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:45 AM #693
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Hmmmm, I don't believe dye actually said anything other than dm13, they didn't actually say improved efficiency, better shot, they just said dm13. This is a new marker, it is priced the same as the old marker. Go cry and be scared of change someplace else. Dye is not ripping anyone off, dye is not lieing to anyone. Who cares if they update their guns looks every year, you're not paying more, you're not getting shafted. If indeed it is the same thing than why are you pissed, it doesn't cost more. It's just like car companies releasing the same exact car for multiple years but only updating minor things, are you *****ing at them for it? God damn you people are all so ignorant. PE has their business strategy, dye has theirs. Neither company is shafting you, ***** ***** ***** some more.
Actually they did claim this marker was improved.

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Dye is proud to introduce the DM13, the newest and most advanced member of our original series of markers of the famed DM line.... It also has the capability to shoot the most fragile tournament-grade paint on the market, and carries a tradition of being among the smoothest, quietest, and most accurate paintball marker in the world. We’ve made the DM13 with a combination of tried and true technology, innovative new features that truly make this marker The Choice of Champions.
Sounds like good reason for people to ***** to me. Releasing the same marker and telling people it's somehow more advanced and innovative.
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