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Old 10-29-2012, 10:39 PM #652
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yea I guess dye believes that people will buy dm13s more this upcoming season than they would have bought dm12s. I applaud eclipse for holding off til they actually make changes. I wonder if sales of ego 11s have done worse than an ego 12 would have. As already said it's all about the money. Dumb people will actually sell their Dm12s and go buy a Dm13 even though there is hardly a difference.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:50 AM #653
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yea I guess dye believes that people will buy dm13s more this upcoming season than they would have bought dm12s. I applaud eclipse for holding off til they actually make changes. I wonder if sales of ego 11s have done worse than an ego 12 would have. As already said it's all about the money. Dumb people will actually sell their Dm12s and go buy a Dm13 even though there is hardly a difference.
You do realize all these companies are in biz for the money right? Some just do a better job at hiding that fact.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:09 PM #654
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the whore in me wants one, the tan/red one
to be precise. but there's just no way I could
possibly justify spending that much on it, and
considering I've just acquired a bnib Geo 3, I
am pretty sure my wife would think this to be
grounds for divorce. and I'd have to agree lol
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:28 PM #655
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the whore in me wants one, the tan/red one
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:31 AM #656
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You do realize all these companies are in biz for the money right? Some just do a better job at hiding that fact.
Of course that was the whole point of my post. Dye feels it can make more money by putting out this gun because more people would buy the same gun with a different title over the same gun with the same title. Eclipse seems to think that they can make money more efficiently by actually making significant changes before they put out a new marker with a new title. And I think that is the better method for customers and companies. The price of your used gun isn't guaranteed to drastically drop every year. I also find it amusing that people will pay more for dm13s at this point instead of saving hundreds by keeping their dm12s or buying one of the brand new dm12s still out there.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:46 AM #657
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I think the DM13 is nicer than the 12, although it's identical functionally. Maybe people who didnt like the 12 will opt for the 13? If I were in the market for a new gun and had the $ for a DM I would get the 13, but probably only because I dont have a 12. People will spend their money however they want, but its up to the consumers how well a gun sells. I can't blame Dye for making something people will want and buy.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:23 PM #658
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Of course that was the whole point of my post. Dye feels it can make more money by putting out this gun because more people would buy the same gun with a different title over the same gun with the same title. Eclipse seems to think that they can make money more efficiently by actually making significant changes before they put out a new marker with a new title. And I think that is the better method for customers and companies. The price of your used gun isn't guaranteed to drastically drop every year. I also find it amusing that people will pay more for dm13s at this point instead of saving hundreds by keeping their dm12s or buying one of the brand new dm12s still out there.
Eclipse is no golden angel. lol. Their move to stick with the 11 may somewhat be based in the fact that they don't want to release things without major revisions, but do you realize how much it is saving them in tooling, design costs, labeling, marketing, all the accessories to stick to a non yearly release? If anything not updating the models at all but sticking to the same or close to the same price is more of a rip off. Now before you start yelling fanboyism I don't even play paintball anymore.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:29 PM #660
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Eclipse is no golden angel. lol. Their move to stick with the 11 may somewhat be based in the fact that they don't want to release things without major revisions, but do you realize how much it is saving them in tooling, design costs, labeling, marketing, all the accessories to stick to a non yearly release? If anything not updating the models at all but sticking to the same or close to the same price is more of a rip off. Now before you start yelling fanboyism I don't even play paintball anymore.
Some how you turned a positive into a negative. I don't even own an electric paintball marker but I thought it was admirable for them not to release a marker with just minimal updates. They didn't try to rip their fanbase off. Somehow you made that a negative.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:32 PM #661
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Eclipse is no golden angel. lol. Their move to stick with the 11 may somewhat be based in the fact that they don't want to release things without major revisions, but do you realize how much it is saving them in tooling, design costs, labeling, marketing, all the accessories to stick to a non yearly release? If anything not updating the models at all but sticking to the same or close to the same price is more of a rip off. Now before you start yelling fanboyism I don't even play paintball anymore.
So you think DYE is spending that much cash on the DM13 for tooling, design, labeling etc etc just to please it's customers?

All about the cash. Bringing out a ,,new'' marker every year delivers more profit than sticking with the same marker.
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Some how you turned a positive into a negative. I don't even own an electric paintball marker but I thought it was admirable for them not to release a marker with just minimal updates. They didn't try to rip their fanbase off. Somehow you made that a negative.
Sometimes there is more than one view to anything, and sometimes multiple views are right. It depends on motive, what the consumer wants, etc... I won't say they did it with the intention of being cheap but you have to look at all aspects of the manufacturing and design process, not just just the finished product and cost.
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All about the cash. Bringing out a ,,new'' marker every year delivers more profit than sticking with the same marker.
Oh really? Do you have company financials to prove it? Profit isn't always about the amount made, it's also about percentages. and by not revising and retooling the percentage of the price of each gun sold that is profit goes up. All I see is a bunch of uneducated hate mongering highschool kids who know nothing about business or how to look at things any way but they way they hear first.
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The funny thing is that the ego has been relatively unchanged other than size and weight since its inception. sure they added features but people never like to point out that dye also has added features. I would say other than the ego having a board with a screen the dm and ego have each had about the same amount of improvement and innovation since each of their inceptions.

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Can someone point out the EXACT differences between the DM12 and the DM13? It seems marginal...
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Can someone point out the EXACT differences between the DM12 and the DM13? It seems marginal...
Kind of like the differences from the 05 to 06 ego? 07 to say what 11 ego? Smaller size, minor added features, increase in efficiency, softer shot....
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:44 PM #667
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has anything really gotten much better since the dm9?
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has anything really gotten much better since the dm9?
Has anything really gotten much better for the ego since the 7?
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Has anything really gotten much better for the ego since the 7?
yes, the 10 and 11 even the 9 with plank imo shoot a good bit smoother.
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Has anything really gotten much better for the ego since the 7?
Yea the removal of the qev and the whole change in the way the Solonoid works but all the other parts are similar and just a smaller tighter design. So I think you are semi right when u say DM's and egos changed at around the same pace. PE just does a good job at hiding things. Ie the regs. Since the ego 7 to now there's been little change to the regs but they always focus on one thing and people run with it. DYe just let's the product speak for itself.
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Smaller size, minor added features, increase in efficiency, softer shot....
Is this smaller than the 12?
What added features?
What is providing the increase in efficiency or softer shot?
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