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10-24-2012, 12:10 PM
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#190
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Location: The District
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Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch
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They should have done a better job distinguishing those papers as from a medical archive. Keep in mind the relative privatization of medicine in the US...
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10-24-2012, 12:10 PM
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#191
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Originally Posted by F1VENOM
Mathematics isn't an oral thing.
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Just what the hell is the relevance of this? |
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10-24-2012, 12:15 PM
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#192
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Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch
Just what the hell is the relevance of this?
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If you're talking about written story telling there's plenty of access to it and they choose to not read that "story." My assumption is that you're talking about oral story telling as that's how creation myths originally propagated and mathematics really isn't an oral thing. |
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10-24-2012, 12:17 PM
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#193
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Originally Posted by F1VENOM
If you're talking about written story telling there's plenty of access to it and they choose to not read that "story." My assumption is that you're talking about oral story telling as that's how creation myths originally propagated and mathematics really isn't an oral thing.
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No that's not what I was talking about. |
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10-24-2012, 12:19 PM
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#194
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Originally Posted by Umami
They should have done a better job distinguishing those papers as from a medical archive. Keep in mind the relative privatization of medicine in the US...
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Charlatans to the lions? |
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10-24-2012, 01:02 PM
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#195
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Delicious.
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Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch
Charlatans to the lions?
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That's how academia works.
I am a little curious about your "math as allegory" statement. Are you arguing that pure mathematics is storytelling? Or is it only storytelling when it's used to model something?
If pure math is storytelling, what story is it telling?
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10-24-2012, 01:54 PM
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#196
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Originally Posted by Umami
That's how academia works.
I am a little curious about your "math as allegory" statement. Are you arguing that pure mathematics is storytelling? Or is it only storytelling when it's used to model something?
If pure math is storytelling, what story is it telling?
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I prefer actual lions. Sophists can't sin from the grave.
I think it can be both, though I'm having trouble coming up with an argument for the former right now, so we will have to proceed on with the latter.
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10-24-2012, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Seattle
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Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch
I literally just thought of this idea when responding to Treghc so bare with me.
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Glad to be of service 
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10-24-2012, 04:34 PM
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#198
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Words and Stuff
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Originally Posted by Iamamartianchurch
Numbers are symbols, equations are allegorical and all of mathematics is story telling.
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Yo, man, like everything is just part of, like, the story of mother earth *hippy accent*
No, but really, I like this idea. What is "1+1" but taking two separate things and putting them together? Can equations exist without story? I don't believe they can. Hell, what is "4" but a collection of 4 things? Not sure how this is relevant to creationism being a joke, but I still like it.
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10-24-2012, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin
No, but really, I like this idea. What is "1+1" but taking two separate things and putting them together? Can equations exist without story? I don't believe they can. Hell, what is "4" but a collection of 4 things? Not sure how this is relevant to creationism being a joke, but I still like it.
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All you're doing here is demonstrating a lack of understanding of number theory. In pure math, "1" is a concept that is demonstrably independent from a "thing".
This reminds me of a time I overheard some philosophy majors talking about GR. I wanted to walk over and punch every single one of them in the face.
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Last edited by Umami : 10-24-2012 at 05:30 PM.
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10-24-2012, 07:25 PM
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#200
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Words and Stuff
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Originally Posted by Umami
All you're doing here is demonstrating a lack of understanding of number theory. In pure math, "1" is a concept that is demonstrably independent from a "thing".
This reminds me of a time I overheard some philosophy majors talking about GR. I wanted to walk over and punch every single one of them in the face.
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You're right; I am not well versed in number theory. Philosophically, I mostly stuck to ethics. Secondly, this wasn't really my idea. I was just taking a comment and running with it. Considering, I feel it would be more productive to explain my mistakes rather than simply tell me I'm wrong though, especially when I do you the service of dismantling the historic authority of creationism.
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Last edited by TheSilentAssassin : 10-24-2012 at 07:27 PM.
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10-24-2012, 07:48 PM
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#201
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Originally Posted by Umami
All you're doing here is demonstrating a lack of understanding of number theory. In pure math, "1" is a concept that is demonstrably independent from a "thing".
This reminds me of a time I overheard some philosophy majors talking about GR. I wanted to walk over and punch every single one of them in the face.
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Tensor, I barely know her. |
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