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Old 10-22-2012, 06:00 PM #526
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Whats the point in even visiting a DM news post anymore? Releasing the same gun over and over again and calling it something new isn't news.

You suck Dye.
It's not like the diff. Between a geo and a geo 2 . Everyone knows a dm is a solid platform to improve on they have been around For a while. The formula need not be changed. Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't Dye own the patent on the spool valve mechanism itself. Ohh forgot to mention the best paintball barrel ever to exist you know the one you put on your marker after you sell your shaft or whatever.

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Old 10-22-2012, 06:05 PM #527
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:06 PM #528
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:08 PM #530
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:12 PM #531
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:16 PM #532
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:19 PM #533
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"Are you tired of making sound investments? Would you like to lose 25% value as soon as you open your marker? Would you like to drop 50% by next world cup? Would you like to buy it again with little to no changes? Check out the DM13 today!"
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Did they change the bolt dimensions at all? No? cool story, I'll pick up a 12 when the price drops to nothing.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:20 PM #534
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Did they change the bolt dimensions at all? No? cool story, I'll pick up a 12 when the price drops to nothing.
Ill probably do the same since the value is already tanked so ill just wait for it to go for the same thing as an AXE lol
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:41 PM #535
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It's not like the diff. Between a geo and a geo 2 . Everyone knows a dm is a solid platform to improve on they have been around For a while. The formula need not be changed. Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't Dye own the patent on the spool valve mechanism itself. Ohh forgot to mention the best paintball barrel ever to exist you know the one you put on your marker after you sell your shaft or whatever.
You're kidding right? The DM has hardly changed in 10 years. Take the bolt kit from a DM4 and a DM13, put them side to side and tell me what's been greatly improved upon. Absolutely nothing. MacDev makes better guns and they don't even have an LPR. Dye is still failing to provide premium features on their 'premium' gun such as an OLED board and yet they still charge a premium price.

Don't even get me started on the UL barrel. It's bigger and heavier than just about every other barrel offered today and also costs way too much. $150 for a UL with some carbon fiber wrapped around the back are you ****ting me?

Point made, Dye guns suck because they consistently fail to improve anything from year to year. It's like the engineering team takes a 10 month vacation and then takes a look at their calendar and says "Oh ****! World Cup is coming up, we better take a stock body and spend 5 minutes designing a new mill job."
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:50 PM #536
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It's not like the diff. Between a geo and a geo 2 . Everyone knows a dm is a solid platform to improve on they have been around For a while. The formula need not be changed. Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't Dye own the patent on the spool valve mechanism itself. Ohh forgot to mention the best paintball barrel ever to exist you know the one you put on your marker after you sell your shaft or whatever.
Never, Shaft4 or Eigenbarrel is all thats good on my 2.1. The last good dye barrel i used was a boomstick and it will stay that way.


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Old 10-22-2012, 06:53 PM #537
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It's not like the diff. Between a geo and a geo 2 . Everyone knows a dm is a solid platform to improve on they have been around For a while. The formula need not be changed. Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't Dye own the patent on the spool valve mechanism itself. Ohh forgot to mention the best paintball barrel ever to exist you know the one you put on your marker after you sell your shaft or whatever.
The very real fact that the DM is neither the smoothest nor the most efficient spool is proof positive that there is still much room for improvement.

Also the UL barrels are not the end all be all barrels they use to be. They offer no real advantage over a number of other quality barrels now on the market.
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[quote=Ravenstylea2;77061609]The formula need not be changed. Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't Dye own the patent on the spool valve mechanism itself. Ohh forgot to mention the best paintball barrel ever to exist [quote]

They have a patent on that specific type, one they didn't even design themselves. People who say there aren't any more improvements to be made to a product because it's "proven" are good for nothing but debilitating progress.

And that comment about the barrel is such a fan boy statement, Neither ULs nor boomsticks shoot any better than other barrels such as freaks or deadlywinds.

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Old 10-22-2012, 07:13 PM #539
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:24 PM #540
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Did they change the bolt dimensions at all? No? cool story, I'll pick up a 12 when the price drops to nothing.
DM12s going for less than the Vapor really does say soemthing about how well Dye is doing.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:26 PM #541
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You're kidding right? The DM has hardly changed in 10 years. Take the bolt kit from a DM4 and a DM13, put them side to side and tell me what's been greatly improved upon. Absolutely nothing. MacDev makes better guns and they don't even have an LPR. Dye is still failing to provide premium features on their 'premium' gun such as an OLED board and yet they still charge a premium price.

Don't even get me started on the UL barrel. It's bigger and heavier than just about every other barrel offered today and also costs way too much. $150 for a UL with some carbon fiber wrapped around the back are you ****ting me?

Point made, Dye guns suck because they consistently fail to improve anything from year to year. It's like the engineering team takes a 10 month vacation and then takes a look at their calendar and says "Oh ****! World Cup is coming up, we better take a stock body and spend 5 minutes designing a new mill job."



I was busying typing all that as well...
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:33 PM #542
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nice looking dm12s... i mean 13s... i mean....
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:39 PM #543
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i like the way they made the bolt window smaller
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Who is charge of Dye's R and D department?! I want his job....
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