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View Poll Results: God's action level
God started the spark for life on Earth, and then left things alone entirely. He has been largely hands off, simply got the ball rolling 5 41.67%
God got life on the right track, implemented evolution, and did some basic guiding to ensure man's ascension 4 33.33%
God started life and helped man largely in various ways in our primitive days, helped us invent things and listens to prayers 2 16.67%
God keeps tabs on all people on Earth, punishes those who are bad and helps those who are good 0 0%
Not only does God micromanage people and punish sinners, we are born with our death date already determined, and God has already planned some of the future for humanity 1 8.33%
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:00 PM #43
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I had mystics in mind. Is there any correlation?
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:53 PM #44
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This hardly ever get's talked about and as soon as it does, it is put aside. But this is the most powerful belief in the Christian religion: that the Creator of the Universe somehow resides inside the believer, teaching him where he should go in the form of the Holy Spirit.

Is this what you mean by micromanagement?

A very minuscule amount of Christians think about the implications of this.

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Old 10-22-2012, 12:45 AM #45
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Are you sure that is unique to Christianity?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:52 AM #46
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I like to think God did whatever the **** he had to do to get the ball rolling and intervened as little as possible from there. However, I do believe God intervenes on occasion. Like unexplainable miracles, ghosts (read: angles and demons?) and ****.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:13 AM #47
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Intelligent response.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:12 AM #48
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I must say, however, that I'm not Christian. That's a truly independent belief.

And, of course, I meant to say angels not angles.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:44 AM #49
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Truly independent huh? I'm impressed.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:28 PM #50
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Truly independent huh? I'm impressed.
If the semantics differ, the concept is different.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:35 PM #51
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If the semantics differ, the concept is different.
Well yeah cause I'm using, like, my brain and ****.
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I think exclusively with my third eye. And I don't mean the one on my forehead...
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:53 PM #53
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I'm not Christian, therefore, all my beliefs are original and unique to myself. I am a free thinker.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:06 PM #54
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I'm not Christian, therefore, all my beliefs are original and unique to myself. I am a free thinker.
I'm pretty sure neither originality nor uniqueness are requirements to be a freethinker.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:22 PM #55
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I'm pretty sure neither originality nor uniqueness are requirements to be a freethinker.
Didn't say they were but then again there really is no such thing.
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Are you sure that is unique to Christianity?
I didn't say it was unique. Micromanagement wise any Christian that says God is done with creation may be gravely mistaken.
What change is going on inside each individual?
If there is nothing going on, I question whether the supposed Christian believes what is in his Bible. There are verses in the Bible; that if someone honestly believed in these verses, he would most likely be sent to a mental institution to be evaluated.

It is mainly because spiritual experiences are illegal.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:39 PM #57
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The threat of damnation is no longer compelling. What now?

It is demonstrated time and time again that people don't need external authority to develop impulse control. Why do the Abrahamic religions fail so thoroughly to address this? How are they still valid in any way?
It is funny that most people don't realize that the "Abrahamic God" only saves the elect. (Doctrine of Election is a somewhat buried idea recently.) There is no threat to compel action and action/ inaction or good works are no recompense for the depravity of man. If the alleged purpose of "Christianity" is mind-control or an opiate for the masses, then the allegation was fabricated by ill-informed individuals.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:37 PM #58
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Not only does God micromanage people and punish sinners, we are born with our death date already determined, and God has already planned some of the future for humanity. Seriously why even debate. God did it
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