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Old 10-11-2012, 11:40 PM #1
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Exclamation Dug This Beast Up...

So I was going through all my old gear seeing what I did and did not need for when I get back into speedball,
and I found my ancient PMI Trracer Tagmaster pump paintball gun!
Now, the first thing I tried to do was pump the handle, and it wouldn't even budge. I'm guessing that's just a lubrication problem.
However, last time I pulled this bad boy out I could hear a gas leak internally. SO, what I was wanting to do was see if anyone
on here could tell me if there was an o-ring missing
on a part of the bolt or if I am missing a piece of the gun entirely. I have a photo album I just posted up so here's the link:
http://imageshack.us/g/1/9807497/

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:09 AM #2
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I can't see if the velocity adjuster is in the bolt, but other than that it doesn't look as if anything is missing. If a Nelson is leaking, it's got to be either the cupseal in the valve or the O-ring that seals the valve guts against the valve body. Those are both there.

Clean and lube everything and try it again.
What kind of tank are you using here? Is it full?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:15 AM #3
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Thanks for responding!
Im just using a regular CO2 tank, and at the time it was full.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:59 AM #4
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Do note the ACI valve had a hard plastic seal that could be finnicky sometimes. Check to make sure the cup is screwed on tightly. Was the hammer by any chance cocked when you tried to pump it? These had anti double feed so if the gun was cocked it would not be able to pump back until fired.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:36 AM #5
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Nah, it was super hard to pump even after i managed to get the bolt to move.
I have to wait till the shop opens to get more gas, and then i'll grease and clean the
crap out of itand see if it still shoots.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:24 PM #6
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On my traccer, when I put it back together if I I push the valve and bolt together until it locks up the gun the sear Tripper will not catch it so it cannot fire and it cannot be cocked to fire.

When putting it back together make sure to not lock the bolt before reassembling.

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Old 10-16-2012, 05:30 AM #7
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On my traccer, when I put it back together if I I push the valve and bolt together until it locks up the gun the sear Tripper will not catch it so it cannot fire and it cannot be cocked to fire.

When putting it back together make sure to not lock the bolt before reassembling.
If that was it all this time im gonna hang myself lol...
Im hitting up the store tomorrow and will get some proper oil and co2 as well.
If its still not working i'll post a video or something.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:53 PM #8
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If that was it all this time im gonna hang myself lol...
Did you miss it when I said it first?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:50 PM #9
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Well i put it all together and a stream of co2 came out of the barrel.
How did i screw up putting it back together?
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:45 PM #10
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Ah! I fixed it. Made the brass piece that screws into the co2 receiver SUPER tight, as well the bolt has two grooves that had to be perfectly lined up with the pump handle wires.
I also discovered that this gun has an auto trigger!
Now there's a few questions i have:
Is there a shorter barrel out there? With the tank on this gun is almost 3 feet long.
Do phantom parts work with this marker? I'd love a 45 grip and a bottomline setup.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:01 PM #11
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Other barrels do exist...but are very hard to find. Propatary threading and all..

Phantom internals will not work.

If the grip is a standard M-16 grip block then yes Phantom frames will work.

Nelsons have AT by nature of being Nelsons.

Glad its working!
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:06 PM #12
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Hmm... so maybe i should just buy a phantom then...
And keep this as a treasure!
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:09 PM #13
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Jus rock that bad boy ... bottomline it or front bottle if you want it shorter.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:54 PM #14
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The part that really bothers me is the offset hopper.
Although i COULD buy phantom parts starting from the grip frame, and work my way up.
Does that sound feaseable?
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:20 PM #15
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Oh... and now its spraying co2 out of the barrel again. Wtf is wrong with it?
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