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10-01-2012, 11:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Umami
Do you honestly think that before using drugs, people stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse"?
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DGAF what they think before doing meth, cocaine, popping pills or any other hard drug. It shouldn't be my problem if someone chooses to waste their money, time, and life on something like that.
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10-01-2012, 11:16 PM
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lapping your tears
Join Date: Jun 2004
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It isn't your problem.
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10-02-2012, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tin-Man
The world must be ending,I fully agree with this
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We desperately need to treat adults like adults. Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own lives and the consequences of their actions. We have to accept that people will fail, people will use drugs, and people will end up in poverty. At some point we need to stop focusing on every negative. What gets people out of bad situations is healthy ideals and determination. No amount of money or education is going to be sufficient without those. Hence the dysmal failure of the Great Society ideology. |
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10-02-2012, 11:44 AM
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I Call Her Tuesday..
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 563
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Because at the end of the day it is not about that one person, but a general problem on a much bigger scale.
This is why I have over time become more vocal about a end to welfare as we know it. It needs to be revamped, perhaps set limits such as 3-4 years total for life, job hunting requirements, and so on.
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Faulty generalization.
The one particular lady wearing a red blouse is a whore, however not all women who wear red blouses are whores.
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10-02-2012, 12:27 PM
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#2 Anti Stim Club Member!
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: San Leandro, CA
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Originally Posted by rnauman821
Faulty generalization.
The one particular lady wearing a red blouse is a whore, however not all women who wear red blouses are whores.
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As I have said before, I am a self made man, I have never taken help and never will.
Anyone who does, is lazy IMHO.
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A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A republic is, two sheep and a wolf voting on dinner.
A constitutional republic is, voting on dinner is expressly forbidden and the sheep are armed.
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10-02-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
As I have said before, I am a self made man, I have never taken help and never will.
Anyone who does, is lazy IMHO.
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So you don't drive on roads? Someone else paid for those you know. A self made man like yourself wouldn't want to rely on other people's infrastructure.
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10-02-2012, 04:04 PM
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#2 Anti Stim Club Member!
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally Posted by TheSilentAssassin
So you don't drive on roads? Someone else paid for those you know. A self made man like yourself wouldn't want to rely on other people's infrastructure.
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Ah but I pay taxes with my hard earned dollars for the privliage to drive on said roads. Can the lazy good for nothing slobs on welfare (and I mark a difference betwene them, and the good hard working folks who happen to be down on their luck for a few months) say the same?...No.
I know well your stance on this, everyone should have the right to a roof over their heads and so on...bull****. If you don't work for it, then no, you don't deserve such given to you off the backs of people who do work for it. (again we see a differnce here betwene handcaped folks and able body folks, if you can work, and don't, your lazy)
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man - Thomas Jefferson
A democracy is, two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A republic is, two sheep and a wolf voting on dinner.
A constitutional republic is, voting on dinner is expressly forbidden and the sheep are armed.
Armed gays don't get bashed - www.pinkpistols.org
ssgaR: 'faith is the path of least resistance'."
Rapier7: Don't be a douche
Last edited by Overbear : 10-02-2012 at 04:07 PM.
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10-02-2012, 04:41 PM
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Words and Stuff
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Originally Posted by Overbear
Ah but I pay taxes with my hard earned dollars for the privliage to drive on said roads. Can the lazy good for nothing slobs on welfare (and I mark a difference betwene them, and the good hard working folks who happen to be down on their luck for a few months) say the same?...No.
I know well your stance on this, everyone should have the right to a roof over their heads and so on...bull****. If you don't work for it, then no, you don't deserve such given to you off the backs of people who do work for it. (again we see a differnce here betwene handcaped folks and able body folks, if you can work, and don't, your lazy)
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"work together to build a public road" =/= "self made man"
No man is an island.
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10-02-2012, 04:52 PM
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Half-cocked
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Not to mention how the Internet came to be, which allows such ignorance to spew out far and wide.
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10-02-2012, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Originally Posted by drgonzo
Not to mention how the Internet came to be, which allows such ignorance to spew out far and wide.
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10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
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I Call Her Tuesday..
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: 563
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Correct!
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10-15-2012, 02:32 PM
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bA What?!?
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Nasti 'Nati
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Originally Posted by Umami
Do you honestly think that before using drugs, people stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse"?
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I don't think they even stop to consider any consequences because we've grown up in a society where everything works out, and no one is accountable for their decisions. They don't have to stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse" because they already know it to be true... it doesn't even cross their minds. |
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10-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ladd_17
I don't think they even stop to consider any consequences because we've grown up in a society where everything works out, and no one is accountable for their decisions. They don't have to stop and think to themselves "oh, it's okay if I become an addict because I can go on welfare/food stamps/whateverelse" because they already know it to be true... it doesn't even cross their minds.
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10-15-2012, 03:34 PM
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bA What?!?
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Nasti 'Nati
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I'm not naive enough to think everything works out in America, that's why I harp on personal responsibility so much. However, we live in a society where there are safety nets for everything, you almost have to try to truly fail beyond recovery. As such, we've got a large percentage of the younger people here who don't grasp the gravity of everyday decisions and assume that everything will work out because someone has always been there to take care of them.
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10-15-2012, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange County
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When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?
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10-15-2012, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Norman, OK
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Originally Posted by licence2kill
When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?
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Never.
custar
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10-16-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by licence2kill
When did the right become obsessed with inflicting pain on others?
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I'd say it coincided with the rise of media/communications and in particular the internet. When it was no longer possible to control information, they knew that their brand of politics' days were numbered in a democratic society, because their brand has always served the few at the expense of the many.
So being unable to control the masses, it became important to disenfranchise voting blocs, weaken people economically, and ruthlessly preserve their own resources. |
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