Infamous Bolt

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 10-14-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Team.Infected

The way his bolt and the axe in general works you need to have a good paint-barrel match to be consistent over the chrono. Something about paint needs to seal well with the barrel so the bolt can get the right amount of pressure... Something along those lines but I don't remember or know exactily.

You pretty much have it, I think. The underbore creates more of a seal, which makes more pressure, which pushes the ball out at a higher velocity.

ninjagummibear69 · 10-14-2012, 04:46 PM

I was shooting a .684 ultralite with paint that had slight resistance in a .689 back.

private_silver · 10-14-2012, 04:52 PM

I rarely use anything larger than a .679 unless it's either raining/humid as **** honestly

ninjagummibear69 · 10-14-2012, 05:15 PM

Ok I'll try that but how does one bolt shoot at 140psi with same settings paint and barrel. And I can't get the infamous bolt to chrono over 220 with around 220 psi. I don't think it's the barrel or not being underbored enough. I just want to figure it out I like boss products.

njkiller66 · 10-14-2012, 05:34 PM

Running an infamous bolt with .685 barrel dwell at 4 and back cap 1.5 turns out medium spring but I can't get the pressure under 190 any ideas? Thought maybe the reg?

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 10-14-2012, 06:08 PM

.685 is more like a paint to barrel match these days. A true underbore is more like .678 - .682

mfarmy · 10-14-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

.685 is more like a paint to barrel match these days. A true underbore is more like .678 - .682

Yah it's true, I used a .680 with valken fate this weekend

eatafetus · 10-14-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBoss33

I can say Drew Templeton's gun was running 3 ms dwell, 1.5 turns out on the back cap, short spring and 122 PSI, chronoing in the upper 290's. Not one broken ball all weekend.

Shot my axe for the first time today. I used these settings with a .685 freak, thinking I would need to tweak everything a bit. Was using year old marbs.

Shot exactly like you said...294 to 297 consistently, amazing performance. I don't want to touch it in case I ruin it.

TheBoss33 · 10-14-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjagummibear69

Ok I'll try that but how does one bolt shoot at 140psi with same settings paint and barrel. And I can't get the infamous bolt to chrono over 220 with around 220 psi. I don't think it's the barrel or not being underbored enough. I just want to figure it out I like boss products.

Is it possible the the rear o-ring are not in the correct places? Small o-ring at the rear with the larger o-ring in fornt of that.

Team.Infected · 10-14-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Team.Infected

Also I tried to read through here but i didn't see a thorough or exact/detonate answer. Only speculation or unsure experiences

So I'm asking what spring should I use...
-smoothest shot
-least kick
-efficient enough for a hopper + 4-5 pods

Lmk! I'm excited to use this!... Ill be putting a new battery in and have a freak so I can underbore and I know what the recommend settings are.

Can someone please answer this question so I can begin tweaking the gun once it's broken in!

I used it today with the reg set around 150. The bolt made a noticeable difference. Not an extreme change yet but it clearly was an improvement, I know it wil take time to break in and tweak a little.
Shot 295-300 consistently with a few spikes down to 250 and 311 but I'm guessing that's because it needs to break in? Otherwise very consistent

Thanks for VERY fast delivery and an awesome product! I am in the process of convincing my teammates to upgrade, one has a boss axe! Lucky guy lol? But we have won axes quite a few times so there might be a few orders coming your way boss

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 10-15-2012, 07:25 AM

Infected, read the tuning sticky at the top of the Axe forum.

Team.Infected · 10-15-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

Infected, read the tuning sticky at the top of the Axe forum.

I read and know how to tune it.. just wondering which spring would be best/if there is a difference/effect

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 10-15-2012, 12:51 PM

Oh. Well, the longer the spring the more tension it will have. The more tension the spring has, the softer the shot will be.

However, this will affect efficiency a bit because more pressure is required to fully cycle the bolt if it has more tension pushing back.

liverlip · 10-15-2012, 01:52 PM

I liked the long spring when I had it. I value a smooth, quiet shot more than efficiency though.

Team.Infected · 10-15-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

Oh. Well, the longer the spring the more tension it will have. The more tension the spring has, the softer the shot will be.

However, this will affect efficiency a bit because more pressure is required to fully cycle the bolt if it has more tension pushing back.

I see... so the shorter spring is going to have more kick but be more efficient?
the longer spring will be better on paint and have a smoother shot? But less efficiency?

For efficiency all I really need is 4 pods and a hopper, as long as I can get that Im fine. I would like to have a smoother shot and the ability to play without making a margarita in my barrel then get 6+ pods a game.

Because the long spring is stiffer does that mean it will need more time to break in? About how many cases does it take to break in (I know this cant really be answered but if you have a vague idea... or I can just shoot till I see the velocity rise and I will know it is starting to break in)

ninjagummibear69 · 10-15-2012, 03:09 PM

I'll try swapping the orings next weekend and see how that goes. Thankyou

TheBoss33 · 10-15-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Team.Infected

I see... so the shorter spring is going to have more kick but be more efficient?
the longer spring will be better on paint and have a smoother shot? But less efficiency?

For efficiency all I really need is 4 pods and a hopper, as long as I can get that Im fine. I would like to have a smoother shot and the ability to play without making a margarita in my barrel then get 6+ pods a game.

Because the long spring is stiffer does that mean it will need more time to break in? About how many cases does it take to break in (I know this cant really be answered but if you have a vague idea... or I can just shoot till I see the velocity rise and I will know it is starting to break in)

Put the fragile paint o-ring at the rear of the bolt, run the dwell about 9ms and use the long spring. That should be the smoothest setup and handle the is very fragile.

MattNasty · 10-15-2012, 07:19 PM

OK, my axe is pretty new and has less than 5 cases through it. this weekend i had a chance to play and i really didn't get a better shot on the chrono or on the field. stock barrel and bolt the marker would shot within 5fps with a random spike or drop. but with the rec setting the marker was shooting about 300-305 short spring, so that was good. was wondering is i should at that point tune by the reg or the back cap? marker shot best with a .684 but idk.

set up:
freak kit, tried-679,682,684
infamous bolt
dwell 3.0
short spring
150 psi
fresh box of redemption

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 10-15-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MattNasty

OK, my axe is pretty new and has less than 5 cases through it. this weekend i had a chance to play and i really didn't get a better shot on the chrono or on the field. stock barrel and bolt the marker would shot within 5fps with a random spike or drop. but with the rec setting the marker was shooting about 300-305 short spring, so that was good. was wondering is i should at that point tune by the reg or the back cap? marker shot best with a .684 but idk.

set up:
freak kit, tried-679,682,684
infamous bolt
dwell 3.0
short spring
150 psi
fresh box of redemption

Are you saying you don't like the shot, or you couldn't notice a difference between the Boss and Stock bolt? You might want to use the long spring instead, it will give you a softer shot IIRC.

MattNasty · 10-15-2012, 10:16 PM

the differnece in grouping wasn't any diff but the kick was def redused in half which that was a plus. with rec settings, it was at 300fps. was wondering if i should adj with the back cap or at the reg?

TheBoss33 · 10-15-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MattNasty

the differnece in grouping wasn't any diff but the kick was def redused in half which that was a plus. with rec settings, it was at 300fps. was wondering if i should adj with the back cap or at the reg?

Drop the reg pressure a little to drop your velocity. Really should be making all of your velocity changes with the reg.