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Old 10-02-2012, 03:09 AM #1
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Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM)

Hi, before any of you go and rant about "pyramid schemes" "scams" "illegal" or whatever, I really can care less about your opinion but you should watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bfl...e_gdata_player


My company is 100% legal, i've joined the company back in February of 2012. And i make close to $8000-$10,000/month with the company. NO, its not a get rich quick scheme, ive seen many fail thinking it is. YES, i worked my *** off to get to where i'm at. Your earning potential in this company can be very high depending on how much effort your willing to put. FHTM is in the top 100 Direct Selling companies #67, and if you still think its a scam watch this. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiw15VgWoI


Well anyways, i created a thread cause i would like to see if there were any paintballers or anyone on the nation that is also doing business with FHTM. If you are, I am an executive in the company, based out of Norco, finally making it pretty good in this economic crisis. Im looking to help you out if needed, or also help anyone that is looking to a good opportunity to make some money.

If you did want to check out some information about my company you can click the link in my sig.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:54 AM #2
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It is funny how people advertise their business these days. The first line in your "sales pitch" contains the words "pyramid scheme", "scam", and "illegal". You post 2 links, both are youtube videos, one of the youtube video's is a poorly made cartoon discussing pyramid schemes. You really got some good marketing skills, that must be how you made 8k-10k per month. Good luck!
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Who does the accounting and external auditing for your company?

Do you have financial statements that you can post? You are an executive so i would assume you have access to the financial statements.
Financial statements from the companies whose products that you sell?

How long has the company been around? When was the company founded?

Does the company force people lower on the pyramid to buy inventory?
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Doing a quick google search.



I dont have volume on the computer i am on. Will watch the video with volume later today.
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Everything im reading screams that this is a terrible business to invest any money in. Even IF nothing illegal is going on, you would have to be a fool to invest in this.
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Who does the accounting and external auditing for your company?

Do you have financial statements that you can post? You are an executive so i would assume you have access to the financial statements.
Financial statements from the companies whose products that you sell?

How long has the company been around? When was the company founded?

Does the company force people lower on the pyramid to buy inventory?
im an executive, only the 2nd promotion buddy.

but ill answer all your questions, cause you seem like those really negative people that was burned badly and probably doesnt make any money for yourself.

I have financial statements of my own, basically my commissions from all the companies (dish network, xoom, etc.)

The company was founded in 2001 by Paul Orberson, hes like a legend in the network marketing industry, making 1 million a month for 2 years straight with the company Excel back in the day.

The company does not force people to buy inventory. they can join the company without ever buying inventory.
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I dont have volume on the computer i am on. Will watch the video with volume later today.
LOL oh you must really know how to do your research, even despite that video i can tell you there are more just like that and i can tell you about all the lawsuits brought up against FHTM, id say one in like every state, or maybe even more. BUT yet our company still in business nationwide and in Canada, opening in Europe in 2014.


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Everything im reading screams that this is a terrible business to invest any money in. Even IF nothing illegal is going on, you would have to be a fool to invest in this.

Like i said i can care less about your opinion, i can already tell you dont know really much about what your talking about, you rely mainly on google for your research. im only 20years old, i know my facts, did my research, and lemme tell you, i forsure will have a bright future cause i know whats up.

Even people like Donald Trump or Robert Kiyosaki recommend network marketing. They actually tell you to give up your small business and go join network marketing.
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Post financial statements?'
You know so much about business dont you, what is your college degree in?

Here is what i know.

MLM inventory selling companies sell products at way above market price in order to make money on lower steps of the pyramid. They have to make commisions multiple levels, so the price they sell items at are way above a competitive price. The profits they make are extremely small. They make most of their "revenues" by charging people entry fee ($299 for your company, i looked it up), and most of the money made is from recruiting people. Bonuses for recruiting people? Thats a pyramid scheme. The amount of profit people are making at lower levels is practically zero. Some people will never make money no matter how hard they try because they are too far down on the pyramid. If you stop recruiting people, your income shrinks to practically NOTHING! Why else would you be on here recruiting so hard.

I dont know what im talking about? This is what i research and study. This is what my career is. Fraud, scams, pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes, financial statement fraud, inventory fraud, auditing, i know all about this because im an accountant. People were making $100k from zeekler, and they got shut down because they were a massive fraud. Moron's like you is what fuels the company. You are making money through signing people up. I garauntee you are making no to very little through sales commissions.

Again, i ask you questions:
1. Who does the accounting and external auditing for your company?
2. Post financial statements of the company.

Any company that makes you pay subscription fee's and recruit other people is a pyramid scheme. Why is your website designed so ****ty? How many Employees are there? 60 people? Right because a huge company that has so many affiliates would only need 60 employees to run. You know how i know your company is bull****? Its because you come here looking for recruits, not for selling items. Your whole initiative is to get subscription paying underlings, not to sell company products. The reason you dont even MENTION selling products, or types of products you sell, is because you dont give a **** about selling, all you care about is recruiting and subscription fees, again, that is a pyramid. Thanks 20 year old boy, you know exactly what you are talking about. Thanks for schooling me on pyramid schemes. Let me know when you get a college degree and know a ****ing thing about business. Dont listen to the accountant, listen to the 20 year old kid who is promoting a pyramid. Good work buddy. I hope you make lots of money.
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I dont have volume on the computer i am on. Will watch the video with volume later today.
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Everything im reading screams that this is a terrible business to invest any money in. Even IF nothing illegal is going on, you would have to be a fool to invest in this.
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Post financial statements?'
You know so much about business dont you, what is your college degree in?

Here is what i know.

MLM inventory selling companies sell products at way above market price in order to make money on lower steps of the pyramid. They have to make commisions multiple levels, so the price they sell items at are way above a competitive price. The profits they make are extremely small. They make most of their "revenues" by charging people entry fee ($299 for your company, i looked it up), and most of the money made is from recruiting people. Bonuses for recruiting people? Thats a pyramid scheme. The amount of profit people are making at lower levels is practically zero. Some people will never make money no matter how hard they try because they are too far down on the pyramid. If you stop recruiting people, your income shrinks to practically NOTHING! Why else would you be on here recruiting so hard.

I dont know what im talking about? This is what i research and study. This is what my career is. Fraud, scams, pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes, financial statement fraud, inventory fraud, auditing, i know all about this because im an accountant. People were making $100k from zeekler, and they got shut down because they were a massive fraud. Moron's like you is what fuels the company. You are making money through signing people up. I garauntee you are making no to very little through sales commissions.

Again, i ask you questions:
1. Who does the accounting and external auditing for your company?
2. Post financial statements of the company.

Any company that makes you pay subscription fee's and recruit other people is a pyramid scheme. Why is your website designed so ****ty? How many Employees are there? 60 people? Right because a huge company that has so many affiliates would only need 60 employees to run. You know how i know your company is bull****? Its because you come here looking for recruits, not for selling items. Your whole initiative is to get subscription paying underlings, not to sell company products. The reason you dont even MENTION selling products, or types of products you sell, is because you dont give a **** about selling, all you care about is recruiting and subscription fees, again, that is a pyramid. Thanks 20 year old boy, you know exactly what you are talking about. Thanks for schooling me on pyramid schemes. Let me know when you get a college degree and know a ****ing thing about business. Dont listen to the accountant, listen to the 20 year old kid who is promoting a pyramid. Good work buddy. I hope you make lots of money.
LOL! Like i said i can care less about your opinion. Have you ever even done network marketing, and no for the past couple months ive recruited no one, but have made a lot through sales and commissions. I've helped many get out of the financial situation they were in so im pretty happy with myself, and i am making very good with the company. On the 10-14 going to the keyes, all expense paid. still making bank :]

and man you can say whatever you want, i read like a tenth of what you posted, cause the bottomline ive met SOOO many people like you, and i aint going stress over another ignorant person.

well nice talking to you, good luck at whatever you do, lol. im still going to do what i do. :]

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LOL! Like i said i can care less about your opinion. Have you ever even done network marketing, and no for the past couple months ive recruited no one, but have made a lot through sales and commissions. I've helped many get out of the financial situation they were in so im pretty happy with myself, and i am making very good with the company. On the 10-14 going to the keyes, all expense paid. still making bank :]

and man you can say whatever you want, i read like a tenth of what you posted, cause the bottomline ive met SOOO many people like you, and i aint going stress over another ignorant person.

well nice talking to you, good luck at whatever you do, lol. im still going to do what i do. :]

lol, willfull blindness at its best,of course you dont want to read what i posted because it makes you look retarded.

financial statements? again, still asking for it.
auditing company you use? again, still asking for it.
100% garauntee you wont post any of these-
do you own the company? what % of the company do you own?

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must be, the only way to make money doing this is being the owner, or being the lucky enough to be the 2nd or 3rd level.
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must be, the only way to make money doing this is being the owner, or being the lucky enough to be the 2nd or 3rd level.
mann you are just dumb, its pointless trying to educate someone as retarded as you. youll never learn haha. Im about like 52 levels down from my coach, and i make like 10g's and imagine one of my reps that is 16 levels away from me. IS MAKING MORE THEN ME. LOL no its not luck, its hard work.

You dont understand that, probably never will, imma take a wild guess and say that your probably, struggling in this economy. what making 50,000, 60,000, a yr? ha. Its only people like you that are making very little money cause you are so negative.

Its the people who are open to opportunity that are making it good in this economy.
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i knew this kid would run away once he realized nobody would buy into his bull****.

http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PS...PPSdefined.pdf

anyone who thinks MLM isnt some bull**** fraud, read this 50 page dissertation from a phd. kid wants to say he did his research. what a dope.
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Hey i can post financial statements! actually, i havent been on this thread on months, i only checked it out today.
but lol, everything i say is true, if no one believes then i can prove it to you with financial statements, etc.
check out my website.

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there are no financial statements there. like i said. post financial statements and tax returns here. 3 months later. still no financials or tax returns.

this is surely legit

surely someone making money and trying to promote his business would take a few second to put some pictures up here....
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there are no financial statements there. like i said. post financial statements and tax returns here. 3 months later. still no financials or tax returns.

this is surely legit

surely someone making money and trying to promote his business would take a few second to put some pictures up here....

LOL i will take some screenshots right now of my commissions checks. but im only 20 been in the business for 11 months to be exact started feb 2012. I have not yet paid taxes. BTW i pay a 1099 so my tax date is april 2013. But i will show 4 checks. One check of every week of one of my months.

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pics are loading to photobucket, and btw what do you do sucka T? you just troll the forums all day?
telling people that legal businesses are illegal? lol.
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this is a months worth of pay for the month of June 2012.
were in January 2013 now, so you can imagine what my paychecks are like
and btw. Ive helped a TON of people get out of the financial hole they were in and live a better life. and i have people on my team that joined UNDER me but are making MORE then me. but oh ya,.. PYRAMID! LOL





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and as you can see, i ran these reports all today 1/15/2013. Just for Sucka_T.
and when i pay taxes, i guess ill post those too lol. ive never worked a job, so ive never paid taxes yet. haha only gone to school and self employed.
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