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Old 09-28-2012, 07:14 AM #1
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Victory problems!, bolt doesn't fully cycle!

Last weekend I had my victory shooting beautifly. I go to crono it the other night and now it won't shoot consistently, and it gets horrible fsdo for the first 10 or so shots, then the bolt will start to cycle fully. But anytime I stop shooting it goes right back to being under powered... Even at lower pressures it feels realy ruff shooting. I have cleaned lpr, hpr, totally rebuilt the engine. I run it on a slp tank and use only triflow/Dow 55 with dwell at stock and pressures about 80 and 180. The problem still persists, help me out nation.
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Old 09-28-2012, 07:32 AM #2
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Check the back cap screws...make sure to tighten them up. If they are loose, pressure will bleed out the edges.
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Old 09-28-2012, 07:38 AM #3
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Already have tightened them, and replaced that o ring in the back cap
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:21 AM #4
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fresh battery?
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:40 AM #5
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Yep, tried a few different batteries to see if that's what it was, no change
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:00 AM #6
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Yep, tried a few different batteries to see if that's what it was, no change
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:37 AM #7
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Bearing in mind I have no idea what the engine on the Victory platform looks like, I had a situation like this with my Darq earlier this year. Turns out the bolt and its shaft had unscrewed very slightly... just enough to screw up cycling. It's worth checking, anyway.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:46 PM #8
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I got my buddy's ripper and have been switching internals to see if I could Identify the problems, it is not the engine... My engine works in his, and his still doesn't work in mine, electronically myn is 100% back to stock, so there is nothing there, wich has me thinking it Is either the lpr or solinoid either way it's not looking to good. I cleaned the lpr again, everything looked normal, but I didn't know how to maintain the valve lookin piece in the back of the lpr, I have been told that the same piece in the hpr is not user serviceable so I took it to meen the same for the lpr.... I have a tournament tomorrow, I will swap the noids on the guns afterword and see if that's the problem. If it is the problem, what does a new noid go for or can it be rebuilt?
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do you have a pressure tester? what is your dwell at?
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:58 PM #10
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well hopefully u don't have to do this but i had this happen to me like 4 or 5 victories ago of mine my gun stopped cycling just like urs i didn't have fsdo but it wouldn't cycle completely turns out it was my solenoid i tried everything to i changed the engines with my other victories and no luck also changed boards and still nothing sent it into blast and they changed the solenoid and thats what did it. but it ended up costing 80 bucks for the noid plus labor costs.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:26 AM #11
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I got my buddy's ripper and have been switching internals to see if I could Identify the problems, it is not the engine... My engine works in his, and his still doesn't work in mine, electronically myn is 100% back to stock, so there is nothing there, wich has me thinking it Is either the lpr or solinoid either way it's not looking to good. I cleaned the lpr again, everything looked normal, but I didn't know how to maintain the valve lookin piece in the back of the lpr, I have been told that the same piece in the hpr is not user serviceable so I took it to meen the same for the lpr.... I have a tournament tomorrow, I will swap the noids on the guns afterword and see if that's the problem. If it is the problem, what does a new noid go for or can it be rebuilt?
that part at the back of the LPR is a shrader valve, and it causes problems if the oring on it gets dry. you can have it with a socket wrench , lube it with dow55, and let is sit for a couple of hours

I fixed a few ones that way
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:00 AM #12
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As previously stated dwell and all other board settings are stock, I normally run my pressures about 80 and 175 With a pressure tester wich used to get about 285 over the crono. I got the victory new in feb. it should still have some warranty? Would their warranty cover anything with the noid?
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:08 AM #13
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whats your tank pressure???
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bob long warranties cover everything BUT the noid
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:44 AM #15
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Up your dwell to say maybe 13 and see what happens, if your bolt does cycle then you may have a noid problem if you already changed and lubed all orings and battery.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:49 PM #16
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I normally run it on an slp-300ish but even on a lp-450ish tank it didn't change.
Just talked to People about bob long warranties today I realy hope it's not half as bad as people have been saying it is to deal with them...
I'll try raising the dwell that much when I get home, just placed 3rd at our last event this season
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:55 PM #17
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i had no problem dealing with blast they are bunch of good guys that work there i sent my gun in and got it back exactly 1 week later took no time at all.
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Well it is my solinoid for sure, I switched it out with the noid from the ripper I borrowed, shot perfectly after that... My question is what would cause my noid to go out like that?, it has only seen lp or slp input it's entire life, and has only had about 60,000 shots threw it. My understanding was that the noid should last about 500,000? Are there any tutorials on how to rebuild it myself? Is it very difficult?
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