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Old 09-23-2012, 10:45 PM #1
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Creed V2 leak & shooting issues, and parts issues.

Like the title says.. I have a decent leak coming from the middle of my frame, which I'm assuming is the solenoid hose.

Also, with my creed set on PSP ramping capped at 15bps, eyes on it doesn't even reach 8bps. Eyes off it hits 15 but chops every other ball or 2. Then again, I have a leak in the middle of my frame.

Last thing- I CANNOT FIND A SOLENOID HOSE ANYWHERE, I've looked to the best of my abilities And cannot find anything.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:26 AM #2
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http://www.vanguardpaintballusane.co...manifold-hose/

there you go, that is the NE repair centre's website.. also your issue sounds like your regs aren't balanced, you sure you got them set properly? Reaper or someone will chime in here soon, no worries
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:46 AM #3
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I seen the manifold hose, I thought it was called a solenoid hose. Thank you for that

I'm not sure of my HPR and LPR are balanced, I know even with the leak I went thru 500-800psi after half a hopper
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:18 AM #4
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well the the standard settings for the HPR/LPR is HPR turn all the way in then out 1 full turn, then LPR 1 turn from flush is normally 280 fps..

once you get the leak all sorted out then you can balance the regs and all will be well
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:45 PM #5
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I set my HPR and LPR settings to stock just now
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:33 PM #6
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Check your ram orings. Bad ram orings will cause air to slip past and vent out the opposite side of the noid.

Turn your LPR all the way out so there is zero output. Then gas the gun up, if you still hear the leak then your LPR is being bypassed due to a bad oring. It's usually one of the LPR body core orings, but not always, your schradder valve inside the LPR could be loose and letting air past.

Check your Manifold/noid hoses. If the ends are stretched out too much they may not hold onto the connectors tight enough and leak. This is usually from people taking them on and off too often.

Manifold orings could also be leaking, again its rare but possible.

Last but not least your inner poppet oring could be leaking and letting air blow into the area between the noid and the main valve fooling you into thinking you have a leak at the noid. Again, easy fix. Just replace the oring and grease it up again.

Remember, just because an oring looks ok doesn't mean it is! Change them.....
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The first time I aired up my gun before messing with anything, the leak was loud from the center of the frame, around the eye covers.

The second time, the leak was quiet.

I already took my manifold hose out, I have to wait to buy one and wait to get air before I can check everything else
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I also have a shipment of Creed parts showing up on Wednesday. I know I have some hose coming.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:08 PM #9
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^ what is your opinion on the problem?
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Well, you can check the hose visually by taking the frame off, airing the gun up and seeing if the hose is leaking. If it is, replace it.

If it's not the hose, the first thing I would do is balance the valve.
Screw your HPR adjuster all the way in. Screw the LPR adjuster all the way out. Then go out 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 turns on the HPR. Turn the air on, you should hear no air flow. Then, screw the LPR adjuster in while pulling the trigger until it sounds like it's shooting right, then shoot it over a chrono to about 285-290fps. Fine tune the rest with the HPR.

If that doesn't fix it, then I'd check the poppet o-rings. Often times, then poppet cap o-ring will cause this leak.
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I'll have to wait till I have my new hose and air anyways.

Do I need to take the the LPR and everything else out to access the poppit?
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I'll have to wait till I have my new hose and air anyways.

Do I need to take the the LPR and everything else out to access the poppit?
The LPR yes.

You'll need to take the HPR off to take the LPR pin out. Then pull the LPR assembly out, the spring will come out behind it, then you can reach down and get the poppet.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:35 AM #13
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now is it safe to lube all of my o-rings besides my rammer with Sl33k or Dow33 in general?
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now is it safe to lube all of my o-rings besides my rammer with Sl33k or Dow33 in general?
Yes. I just use Vaseline on everything, even the ram.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:09 PM #15
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Well I suppose I'll have to see where I am at after the manifold hose comes in
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Well I suppose I'll have to see where I am at after the manifold hose comes in
When you get your hose and are ready to install it, just take a look at the barb that it connects to on the manifold, just check it doesn't have any flats or crush marks on it.
Just a thought that we have seen before, makes it seem like a hose leak
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I don't understand how to get the poppit out, I've taken everything else off and lubed it with monkey poo this time, I get the LPR cap, spring and the piston out, but don't understand how to take Everyhing else out
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I don't understand how to get the poppit out, I've taken everything else off and lubed it with monkey poo this time, I get the LPR cap, spring and the piston out, but don't understand how to take Everyhing else out
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I'm a vanguard noob, I must admit
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Thanks Jason. Sorry Cheese, should have referred you to the videos earlier.
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I'm probably going to replace The poppit o-ring while I'm looking at everything
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