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Old 09-09-2012, 05:29 AM #1
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NT10 with not enough velocity

Hey Folks,

first of all I have to say that Iīm from germany and my english is not the best at all
I hope you can help me.

I play a NT10, it shoots amazing, no breaking paint, clean lines... but...

the velocity is only at 260 fps... and I canīt get more

So I tell you my settings perhaps it helps.
-Reg Setting 135 psi (if I do more it breaks balls)
-complete new orings
-Dwell 8 (also tryed 10 but there no difference)
-I also tryed 3 different Frontregs( 2 DYE-Regs and 1 CP-REG)
-also 3 different bottles
-no spacers in there
-blue flow tip
-also tryed another NT10 bolt and another NT10 Soli

can someone help me why mmy NT only shoots 260 fps?!

Thank you very much
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EDIT:
Upgrade Kit is also in there:
the new Spring (brass colour, not the silver one) and the bumper with the slot...
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:38 AM #2
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put the spacer body in and one spacer and go from there
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:00 AM #3
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First if all thanks for your help...

but I already also tryed this.
Spacer body alone or with one, two, three or even four spacers and the velocity doesnīt change
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:39 PM #4
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this might be a dumb question but what about paint to barrel match??

the main reasons for low velocitys would be, low pressure tanks, bolt issues, inline reg issues, dwell issues, or barrel match. that seems like to only issue that could make sense.
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:41 PM #5
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try setting the inline to about 140 and dwell to about 6-7
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:37 PM #6
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this might be a dumb question but what about paint to barrel match??

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i kinda hafta agree. either that or a low battery.
the reg will leak around 145
the blue insert and no spacers should be higher velocity.

if you put a pintball in your barrel does it fall through?it shouldnt fall though but it shouldnt be hard to blow through
you should be push it through by blowing it
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:05 AM #7
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Barrel Size is complete ok and matches... I have every Boomstick-Back and I use them...

Every time I also use new Batteries, thats the first point I change when I have Problems with a gun

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the problem is that when I set the Reg to 140 psi the gun breaks paint... I canīt set more then 135 psi...
On saturday I played with Boomi Back 0,684 and the paint matched perfect... it also was Highend-Paint, no bull****-balls

thank u very much for your help guys

I donīt know what I can do more and I think iīll send the gun to DYE-Germany...

I also tryed two differrent bottles, another NT10 bolt and another NT10 soli and the problem isnīt gone
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:19 AM #8
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Check the shim stack in your Hyper3. You should have 13 shims. And make sure they're stacked correctly.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:32 PM #9
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Check the shim stack in your Hyper3. You should have 13 shims. And make sure they're stacked correctly.
i thought the hyper 3 has 10 shims? and he said he used different regs as well.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:51 PM #10
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put the spacer body in and one spacer and go from there
^^ worst advice ever



Seems like you swapped every part in the gun, try swapping boards?
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:13 PM #11
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At this point just send it in. You could have a worse problem like something blocking the channels between the solenoid and the bolt.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:20 PM #12
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^ That would be easy to see and clean.

Now the actual passage to get the air to the noid is another story.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:35 PM #13
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put the spacer body in and one spacer and go from there
ya good idea, lets put those in since they are designed to slow the velocity down..
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:38 PM #14
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if you want to send it to me i can take to cup and have it techd and ill send it back the tuesday after. pm if u want to set it up
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:28 AM #15
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if you want to send it to me i can take to cup and have it techd and ill send it back the tuesday after. pm if u want to set it up
I think its too expensive to sent it from Germany to USA

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At this point just send it in. You could have a worse problem like something blocking the channels between the solenoid and the bolt.
I think iīll do that... the problem with the soli is that I also tryed a differrent one and the problem was exactly the same...

thnak u for your help guys... Nice forum here
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:02 AM #16
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^^ worst advice ever



Seems like you swapped every part in the gun, try swapping boards?
Thats the only part I couldnīt change because I donīt have a second one and also canīt get it... is it really possible that the problem comes from a damaged Board?!
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:23 AM #17
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I think its too expensive to sent it from Germany to USA



I think iīll do that... the problem with the soli is that I also tryed a differrent one and the problem was exactly the same...

thnak u for your help guys... Nice forum here
It might be be a problem with the body/air channels. I see that from time to time and it causes all sorts of problems. From the information you've given so far though, this will definitely take a tech breaking it down and rebuilding.

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There is a possibility its the board
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:46 AM #19
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Try a very high dwell - like 20, and see what happens.

Is your eye pipe ok and are you using the blue oring on the bolt tip?
If the bolt does not 'seal' with the eyepipe you will lose velocity.

PS: is the chrono ok?
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:40 PM #20
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I had a similiar problem. My marker shot 290 fps with the green spacer in (320+ w/o any) @ 120 psi. All of a sudden I couldn't get it past 280 fps @ 150 psi. Tried changing all sorts of o-rings, fresh battery, etc with no luck...

Finally a tech put the orange o-ring bumper on the bolt (I had the older brown one) and now I'm back to shooting ~295 fps @ 120 psi with the green spacer in. The only other thing the tech did was apply regular Dow 33 instead of the Monkeypoo I had been using so I'm guessing it was either the bumper or swollen o-rings...
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