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Old 09-14-2012, 09:21 AM #211
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maybe you failed to see my point....there are good people in every society but their voices can easily be drowned out by the atrocities of a few
Not only that they must show that they are willing to help themselves and too many muslims over there sit silent because they're afraid, which means you end up with radical elected officals. This cycle has been going on for how many hundreds of years now?
What is most interesting is that national socialism is universally demonized for the atrocities committed while Communism is given a free pass on its own. Arguably Communism has even more blood on its hands
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:23 AM #212
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I have a entirely new viewpoint on all graduates from Ohio state after watching Matt on this site... When looking at job applicants in the future, I will rate "Ohio state" graduates accordingly.

Seriously, kid, you are epically clueless.


Let me break this entire incident down for the liberals who will still be clueless after I post what happened in this situation.

Obama bragged about killing Osama, he also said Al-Qaeda is no longer a threat to the US.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/0...al-convention/

"al Qaeda is on the path to defeat, and Osama bin Laden is dead." Direct quote from Obama at the DNC convention.

Al-Qaeda has already declared war on the USA, so it will come as no surprise, that Obama "spiking the football" would in fact result in an attack on our country to show us that they are still powerful. In fact, it would be logical to say, that the Presidents actions actually CAUSED this attack, course you would have to have critical thinking skills to be able to make that determination.

This heaped coals of shame on members of this group, and if you look at statistics you can see that Muslims that hold this "radical" view that aligns with Al-Qaeda is actually a HUGE amount of people all over the world.

(Matt, the following link backs up what I am saying, if you click it and read it, (I know reading is hard...) you will see numbers of groups of people who hold a favorable view of Al-Qaeda, that means they like the terrorists who are AT WAR with our country).

http://people-press.org/files/legacy...t.pdf#page=127



Now, the media is liberal, we can all agree on that fact, since there is overwhelming evidence that proves this, and they will do anything in their power to protect Obama, and hurt Romney. This was evidenced JUST THIS WEEK, when Romney called Obama to the woodshed for his handling of THIS very issue. And the media were captured on live mic, figuring out "their plan of attack" on Romney... Only in a media propaganda place like the USA would this happen, and liberals ignore it...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...New-York-Times

Now, Matt, I realize you probably don't understand what propaganda is, but when the media invents a narrative, that slanders one group while protects another, that is called bias. For you to understand, what is going on, you need to realize that the media invents their storyline and they all follow it. Sometimes the storyline comes from the white house, and other times, the liberals who run the news, they just come up with it themselves, as you can see by the way all of the questions to Romney from all of the different reporters are the EXACT SAME talking point that attempts to damage Romney...

Now, the REAL question is why we didn't have armed US guards at OUR US SOIL in these countries. That is because Obama didn't attend his national security meetings. And Hillary thinks everyone likes liberals, so why protect yourself...

http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-oba...embassy-attack

That is a dereliction of duty... And people DIED because of it.

Next issue, Why was our EMBASSY not protected... This is because liberals run our country, and they would rather bow to our enemies and show weakness than show strength. As they think weakness is actually strength. Tell that to the murdered victims families. Reagan showed us what strength is, and Obama is the opposite of Reagan.

Burning our embassy to the ground and tearing down our flag and raising the Al-Qaeda flag shows the world that America is weak, and Obama is a liar, as Al-Qaeda is not "finished" as Obama bragged in the DNC convention last week.

Also doing this on 9/11 was on purpose... The "film" is just a cover... This was pre-planned and executed on a pathetically weak administration who clearly have no ability to assess threats, since they bragged the day before on 9/10 that there was no "chatter" and we as a country were safe.

Of course if the US media wasn't liberal, we might find out more of what happened, and they might cover the news reports FROM THE AREA that showed what actually happened... But, no, that doesn't fit the liberal narrative, and that won't get Obama re-elected.

We have to go OUTSIDE of the US to find news on this story... Like the fact that the STATE DEPARTMENT WAS WARNED OF AN IMPENDING ATTACK! and yet, as usual, liberals are too busy campaigning to look at what is actually going on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8135797.html

"According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted."
8 beers in last night and this sounded good. Now it just amplifies my headache.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:29 AM #213
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I have a entirely new viewpoint on all graduates from Ohio state after watching Matt on this site... When looking at job applicants in the future, I will rate "Ohio state" graduates accordingly.

Seriously, kid, you are epically clueless.


Let me break this entire incident down for the liberals who will still be clueless after I post what happened in this situation.

Obama bragged about killing Osama, he also said Al-Qaeda is no longer a threat to the US.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/0...al-convention/

"al Qaeda is on the path to defeat, and Osama bin Laden is dead." Direct quote from Obama at the DNC convention.

Al-Qaeda has already declared war on the USA, so it will come as no surprise, that Obama "spiking the football" would in fact result in an attack on our country to show us that they are still powerful. In fact, it would be logical to say, that the Presidents actions actually CAUSED this attack, course you would have to have critical thinking skills to be able to make that determination.

This heaped coals of shame on members of this group, and if you look at statistics you can see that Muslims that hold this "radical" view that aligns with Al-Qaeda is actually a HUGE amount of people all over the world.

(Matt, the following link backs up what I am saying, if you click it and read it, (I know reading is hard...) you will see numbers of groups of people who hold a favorable view of Al-Qaeda, that means they like the terrorists who are AT WAR with our country).

http://people-press.org/files/legacy...t.pdf#page=127



Now, the media is liberal, we can all agree on that fact, since there is overwhelming evidence that proves this, and they will do anything in their power to protect Obama, and hurt Romney. This was evidenced JUST THIS WEEK, when Romney called Obama to the woodshed for his handling of THIS very issue. And the media were captured on live mic, figuring out "their plan of attack" on Romney... Only in a media propaganda place like the USA would this happen, and liberals ignore it...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...New-York-Times

Now, Matt, I realize you probably don't understand what propaganda is, but when the media invents a narrative, that slanders one group while protects another, that is called bias. For you to understand, what is going on, you need to realize that the media invents their storyline and they all follow it. Sometimes the storyline comes from the white house, and other times, the liberals who run the news, they just come up with it themselves, as you can see by the way all of the questions to Romney from all of the different reporters are the EXACT SAME talking point that attempts to damage Romney...

Now, the REAL question is why we didn't have armed US guards at OUR US SOIL in these countries. That is because Obama didn't attend his national security meetings. And Hillary thinks everyone likes liberals, so why protect yourself...

http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-oba...embassy-attack

That is a dereliction of duty... And people DIED because of it.

Next issue, Why was our EMBASSY not protected... This is because liberals run our country, and they would rather bow to our enemies and show weakness than show strength. As they think weakness is actually strength. Tell that to the murdered victims families. Reagan showed us what strength is, and Obama is the opposite of Reagan.

Burning our embassy to the ground and tearing down our flag and raising the Al-Qaeda flag shows the world that America is weak, and Obama is a liar, as Al-Qaeda is not "finished" as Obama bragged in the DNC convention last week.

Also doing this on 9/11 was on purpose... The "film" is just a cover... This was pre-planned and executed on a pathetically weak administration who clearly have no ability to assess threats, since they bragged the day before on 9/10 that there was no "chatter" and we as a country were safe.

Of course if the US media wasn't liberal, we might find out more of what happened, and they might cover the news reports FROM THE AREA that showed what actually happened... But, no, that doesn't fit the liberal narrative, and that won't get Obama re-elected.

We have to go OUTSIDE of the US to find news on this story... Like the fact that the STATE DEPARTMENT WAS WARNED OF AN IMPENDING ATTACK! and yet, as usual, liberals are too busy campaigning to look at what is actually going on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8135797.html

"According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted."
"The liberal media this, the liberal media that"... I remember when the media was the media and they didn't pander to one side of the political spectrum or the other. I distrust Fox just as much as MSNBC. They package their entertainment towards an audience and that isn't reporting, that's pandering. Stop sipping the koolaid from either side, especially from sources that use the phrase "mainstream media" because all credible media is mainstream. That's what media is, it's MAINSTREAM, that's the whole point of media.

It's a tragedy that four Americans were needlessly killed, especially considering they were doing everything they could to rebuild Libya for Libyans but it's also a tragedy that the media uses it as a means to an end politically. Times of crisis are when a nation is supposed to come together, not bicker about who's fault it is on our end, there is plenty of time for that after the perpetrators are hunted down and dealt with most severely.
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What is most interesting is that national socialism is universally demonized for the atrocities committed while Communism is given a free pass on its own. Arguably Communism has even more blood on its hands
I've always wondered exactly whay that is. Communism has far more blood on it's hands between the USSR and the Peoples Republic of China.

My theory is that the difference is that National Socialism is far more demonized because they committed their atrocities by volition, as opposed the comunist states who while they treated their people horribly, garnered the most destruction and sorrow through their economic policies (in comparison to their civil rights abuses) which were intended to help, but failed.

Talke to the average man on the street though and ask how they think about Naziism and then how they think about Communism and you'll useally get something like "pure evil" or "killing jews" for the first one and "good system but needs to be implemented correctly" for the second.
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I've always wondered exactly whay that is. Communism has far more blood on it's hands between the USSR and the Peoples Republic of China.

My theory is that the difference is that National Socialism is far more demonized because they committed their atrocities by volition, as opposed the comunist states who while they treated their people horribly, garnered the most destruction and sorrow through their economic policies (in comparison to their civil rights abuses) which were intended to help, but failed.

Talke to the average man on the street though and ask how they think about Naziism and then how they think about Communism and you'll useally get something like "pure evil" or "killing jews" for the first one and "good system but needs to be implemented correctly" for the second.
You forgot racist.

Even communist revolutions were bloody messes. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Stalin and Mao directly massacre people?

I assume it is because communism appeals to basic desires and a flawed sense of entitlement. I deserve rather than I earned. What irks me the most is that it sees the division of class on a basis of wealth. Not that the US or anyone else who grew out of the sphere of British influence is any different.
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Isn't it though

Anyway, has anyone heard or read Hillary Clinton's speech?

http://news.yahoo.com/secretary-clin...-politics.html

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In her remarks, Clinton repeated much of what she's said in the last two days. Namely that the Benghazi attack was carried out by a "small and savage group," and that the United States completely rejects what she called the "inflammable and despicable" anti-Muslim film circulating the Internet. However, Clinton pointed out all religions have faced insults and denigration, but that's no justification for violence. The response to such insults is what separates people of true faith from those who would use religion as an excuse to commit violent acts, she said.

"When Christians are subject to insults to their faith, and that certainly happens, we expect them not to resort to violence. When Hindus or Buddhists are subjected to insults to their faiths, and that also certainly happens, we expect them not to resort to violence," said Clinton. "The same goes for all faiths, including Islam."

She spoke movingly about her own personal beliefs as a way of re-enforcing her point.

"I so strongly believe that the great religions of the world are stronger than any insults. They have withstood offense for centuries," said Clinton."Refraining from violence, then, is not a sign of weakness in one's faith; it is absolutely the opposite, a sign that one's faith is unshakable."

She asked the crowd to work towards building a world where if one person commits a violent religious act, millions of people will stand up and condemn it

"We can pledge that whenever one person speaks out in ignorance and bigotry, ten voices will answer," Clinton said forcefully. "They will answer resoundingly against the offense and the insult; answering ignorance with enlightenment; answering hatred with understanding; answering darkness with light."

The secretary urged the audience not to be discouraged by the hatred and violence that exists, but instead resolve to do something tangible to promote religious tolerance in their own communities.

"In times like these, it can be easy to despair that some differences are irreconcilable, some mountains too steep to climb; we will therefore never reach the level of understanding and peacefulness that we seek, and which I believe the great religions of the world call us to pursue," she reflected. "But that's not what I believe, and I don't think it's what you believe… Part of what makes our country so special is we keep trying. We keep working. We keep investing in our future," she said.

This year's annual Eid event honored three young Muslim-Americans who are part of the State Department's Generation Change program. The initiative, launched by Clinton two years ago, supports young Muslims to develop positive organizations and movements around the world.

Clinton acknowledged given deaths of the diplomats killed in Libya this week, the event had a more somber tone than in years past. But she also highlighted the outpouring of support the United States has received from the Muslim world. She thanked the Libyan Ambassador, Ali Suleiman Aujali, who gave a heartfelt tribute U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens ,whom he called his dear friend, killed in Benghazi on Tuesday.

"I must tell you, Madam Secretary, and tell the American people, that Chris is a hero," said Aujali. "He loves Benghazi, he loves the people, he talks to them, he eats with them, and he [was] committed - and unfortunately lost his life because of this commitment."
A very good speech there, and I am not a fan of her politics (Actually, I don't think iI'm a fan of anyone's politics). She essentially lays down the gauntlet for Islam, saying that if you have to resort to violence, your faith is weak.
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Sure of what?

wow still hung up on these pictures

they don't pant a picture of the society as a whole or how it's governed
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Nice Aliens reference, but like the movie, I bet it turns into "a ball of vapor the size of Nebraska" on it's own.
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Isn't it though

Anyway, has anyone heard or read Hillary Clinton's speech?

http://news.yahoo.com/secretary-clin...-politics.html



A very good speech there, and I am not a fan of her politics (Actually, I don't think iI'm a fan of anyone's politics). She essentially lays down the gauntlet for Islam, saying that if you have to resort to violence, your faith is weak.
Sounds like a bunch of nonsense. The video was nothing but a scapegoat.
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wow still hung up on these pictures

they don't pant a picture of the society as a whole or how it's governed
You are so dense.

This does paint a picture of their society. You just rather judge a whole region on the acts of few.
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You are so dense.

This does paint a picture of their society. You just rather judge a whole region on the acts of few.
well the few are winning the war....just turn on your TV
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You are so dense.

This does paint a picture of their society. You just rather judge a whole region on the acts of few that fits your stereotypes.
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Notice again, you have to get INTERNATIONAL news to find out about the destruction of our embassy...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...enghazi-damage

400 attackers, not mentioned by our American press, who are so concerned about Romney's statement instead of looking at what actually caused this mess.

And what does this administration do? Deny reality.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81198.html

Obama is reacting EXACTLY like Carter...

Another failed Presidency...

Now these terrorists are burning American flags in LONDON.



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...on_652335.html


In 20 countries this stuff is going on now.

Where is Obama? Oh yeah, out fundraising and getting ready for letterman...

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Notice again, you have to get INTERNATIONAL news to find out about the destruction of our embassy...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...enghazi-damage

400 attackers, not mentioned by our American press, who are so concerned about Romney's statement instead of looking at what actually caused this mess.

And what does this administration do? Deny reality.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81198.html

Obama is reacting EXACTLY like Carter...

Another failed Presidency...

Now these terrorists are burning American flags in LONDON.



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...on_652335.html


In 20 countries this stuff is going on now.

Where is Obama? Oh yeah, out fundraising and getting ready for letterman...

Leading from behind.
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Aww, does it hurt your feelings to actually know what is going on as a result of our precious Obama?

Weird how the German press headlines are oh, so different than our headlines here in the states...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-855835.html

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