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Old 08-29-2012, 02:13 AM #1
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2k2 volumizer?



this thing fits with the threads on the torpedo reg but not the lpr. whats going on here?
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:21 AM #2
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You're missing the base part of the Lpr.
The left hand piece is a volumizer for the Lpr.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:32 PM #3
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as in base do you mean the block thats on the gun?
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:03 PM #4
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as in base do you mean the block thats on the gun?
No. Here's a pic of a complete LPR.




And I found this in the "FAQ\Manuals\Upgrades\Settings\Modification\Proble m solving Links" which might help a little.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...482#post665482

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Old 08-29-2012, 08:20 PM #5
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as in base do you mean the block thats on the gun?
No I mean what I mean, if I was referring to the front block I would have said front block...
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:50 PM #6
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this is my first timmy so im not fly with the lingo on the parts lol the abck was still threaded to the block lol. anyways, got it all torn apart and put the orings where the manual said they should go, threw it all together and now i cant get the lpr below 250.



i removed the middle oring in the pic, so it has the 11 on the tip and the skinny one on the very back. still over presurising
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:55 PM #7
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Is the Lpr adjustment screw backed out all the way?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:15 PM #8
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yeah, i even removed it entirely.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:02 AM #9
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...threw it all together and now i cant get the lpr below 250. ... still over presurising
Sounds like a bad Schrader Valve in the LPR??? Remove it and replace and/or lube the little round urethane o-ring and the o-ring on the screw.

Oring is pictured below in the center of the pic.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:15 AM #10
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oh, no issues when the volumizer is off. but yeah ive gone through all the parts, its in good shape.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:21 AM #11
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oh, no issues when the volumizer is off...
So the LPR pressure is fine without the volumizer???
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:23 AM #12
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yeah, its trippin me out. not like i really NEED to use the extra volume, but id like to know why its not working and fix it lol
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:23 AM #13
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oh, no issues when the volumizer is off. but yeah ive gone through all the parts, its in good shape.
In that case it's either the volly that is causing it, or the orings you are using.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:42 AM #14
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:11 AM #15
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I noticed a tube of SL33K in the background. Make sure you're using DOW55 on all the Timmy o-rings except the ones on the bolt.

You removed the correct LPR o-ring, but make sure that front volumizer o-ring is good and lubed with Dow55. It prevents the HPR air from going down the slot near the threads on the front block. This slot feeds the front block barb, which feeds the solenoid.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:12 AM #16
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oh, yeah all i have is sleek at the moment, i figured itd be allot better than hater sauce? lol i was told that 33 isnt bad as long as i clear it off and use 55 whenever i can make the switch.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:30 AM #17
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Dow55 swells o-rings and BL markers are built with that in mind. I would just run the LPR for now until you get some, and try to over-pressurize the noid as little as possible. Just FYI, whatever that gauge reads on the front block is what's hitting the noid.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:30 AM #18
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33 is fine as a substitute but Dow 55 is recommended and swells orings more than Dow 33.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:31 AM #19
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yeah...... im going to....not, try to reinstall that thing again untill i find another gun to test it on o.0
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:31 AM #20
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Seems like air is bypassing the desired route because the O-ring on the stem of the LPR Base is too thin. Get a thicker one and try again or try to place a 2nd one on there to see if it'll maintain a seal. If you don't have another, a way to force the seal is to place a washer over the stem and then slide the O-ring on so it pushes it out far enough to create the seal with the Volly.

Now kids, relax as this next one is only to rule out my hunch is correct or wrong, but try wrapping the LPR base with Teflon tape to ensure it will seal and if it does that's your issue.

As a 3rd alternative you can use a rubber band and wrap it many times over the stem to create a thick rubber seal for testing purposes. If any of these work then you know you need a thicker O-ring.

And FYI DOW33 works perfectly fine and wont hurt a thing. 55 is good but I don't use it in it's pure form as I mix the 2 with Tri-Flow to create my own Lube that is superior to both.
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