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Old 08-25-2012, 02:22 PM #1
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Dating a cocker?

I know this used to be posted but I can't find it and have a cocker with a low serial I'm trying to I'd the age
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:49 AM #2
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Well, my guide that I used is know totally gone. I should have made a mirror of the site...

There used to be a site that had some pretty good records for serials vs. manufacturing years but it went down a few years ago. The Internet Archive had a copy of it but now it isn't working anymore.

What is your serial? Can you post a pic?

From what I searched:
  • 26300 is from around 1995
  • 8283 Autococker is circa 1992
  • 9351 is a 1991 serial (which contradicts the above serial but idk)
  • 111131 is around 2002
  • Mine is 134687 which is 2003 for a fact (probably too new for what you are asking)

Sometimes when people mini their cocker, they cut off a part of the serial number making some people think they have a really low serial. Also, any cockers that came mini from WGP have a different numbering system. Like 1069 is a 93 and 3896 is a 97. Also, some private labels used their own serial numbering system, from what I've heard.

You have pre-2k and 2k+ bodies. Slider frames are classed at pre-98 and 98+. Bodies are easy to tell since the front block hole is a different size (+2k is bigger, trilly is even bigger) and the really old bodies are pretty obvious. Slider frames have to be disassembled to look at the trigger plate shape. Of course that doesn't help if the frame isn't stock.

Is there anything special about this gun? Any logos from private labels? Just go to imgur.com and upload some pics and post links. Maybe someone can help.

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Old 08-26-2012, 01:07 AM #3
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:08 AM #4
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:38 AM #5
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Found a copy of the site I saved. I thought I did this but couldn't find it initially. I would host the page myself but I don't want the traffic on my site, sorry. So I posted it to an html hosting site. None of the links actually work on the table just so you know.

http://pastehtml.com/view/c9halptdq.html

Just for redundency:
http://sendspace.com/file/qtay1l
http://filedropper.com/cockerdating
http://pastebin.com/yMWtp9Ze (raw html, not really readable)

I would post the table in here but pbnation's vBulletin system doesn't support the formatting.

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Old 08-26-2012, 01:47 AM #6
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Wow. Gorgeous. Is it a pump?



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Old 08-26-2012, 01:47 AM #7
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Uhh, that's a lot of milling. Probably a 1990 but that evo length bolt is making me think that I could be wrong. Maybe someone else can weigh in.

Nice looking gun though.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:55 AM #8
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Did they have STOs back then?
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:07 AM #9
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That looks ****ing epic nonetheless. I am full of want. Damn you. I hope you can find out soon
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:13 AM #10
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Yes it's pumped and most people have weighed in at 89-90
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Old 08-26-2012, 02:33 AM #11
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Early 90's. Thats another PTP body. I belive that was their milling pattern before the FX line came out.
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What barrel is that one there?
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:06 AM #14
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I have no clue on the barrel no markings on it. I posted this is custom cockers a few months ago because I was thinking PTP also but had multiple people tell me no but I have no clue. At least we all seem to agree 89-90
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PTP were the only ones to use the powerfeed.
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Well that helps thanks
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Any idea on the possible model name?
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:13 PM #18
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Very honestly, if I had to guess, I'd steer more toward that power feed being added to a milled RF non-PTP body. I was around the PTP line for quite a while, and never saw that style milling.
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Don't think they ever used that sort of detent either.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:57 PM #20
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My PTP micro has the same detent
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Any chance it could be a Dirk Gadberry?
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