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Old 08-18-2012, 01:21 PM #1
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DO NOT DEAL WITH jrob92

On the 6th jrob contacted me through my pawnshop thread saying that he needs to sell his ripper Vic ASAP. We ended up reaching a deal and I sent $700 on the 7th. I have messages him several times about getting a tracking number and when its supposed to be here. I then sent him a message on Thursday the 16th that if I didn't recieve anything by this coming Friday the 24th I would be filing a PayPal claim. He responded with a message couldn't understand and he said his computer was broken. I got his phone number from a guy he previously did a deal with and texted him. In those messages he told me he ended up selling it to someone else and is waiting on payment. He never once told me that he sold it to someone else in the 12 days he has had my money. Here are the picture proof of the deal and the text messages.

















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Old 08-18-2012, 01:55 PM #2
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:01 PM #3
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this might have some info it
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:03 PM #4
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Yeah with that whole deal I feel tvveak got the short end Of the stick.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:36 PM #5
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So have you filed with paypal?
do that now, offer them this thread or those screenshots.

it sounds like he used your money to pay the ticket or whatever and then someone offered him more $ AFTER he had made a deal with you.

IMHO making an agreement with someone and then backing out for a local deal is complete BS. Him not knowing if you had sent payment is not your fault, if his computer is messed up (maybe just the k ybo rd?) he still could have held off on making a local deal until he could verify that you had or had not paid.

Also, once he found out you paid, (after he sold it locally), what did he do with the money? he didn't send it back he took it out of his account.

He's either a very bad seller, scammer or irresponsible child. regardless of the cause, he deserves a negative imho.

I also vote banhammer, as this is either a completely fabricated story (that still makes him look terrible) or actually the truth which makes him look like a thief. PBN is not a place to "borrow" people's money.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:13 PM #6
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WOW..

Get everything started on paypal NOW!!

No waiting.. Escalate the claim as soon as possible also,Paypal will ask for your proof and you have it) and will find alot faster then two weeks..

you start the claim.. the seller has a chance to respond, you have the ability to escalate the claim right away (i believe,if not right away alot sooner then two weeks..Ive been able to do it same day)

you will be given a chance to upload proof for paypal to see,upload the pics of the above msgs for them..

you will get your money.

he will be put into the negative (for the amount owed) untill paypal gets its money from him. they pay you on the finding hes a fraud.. then they go after him..

if he does not pay them, they go after him legally ..
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:53 PM #7
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Yeah I already made the claim and escalated it with PayPal. This is not the first time I have had to get my money back through PayPal. I was going to give him until Friday but with those responses in text messages I decided to do it today. I'm not worried at all about getting my money back
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:55 PM #8
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Has he been given a link to this thread? I'd like to hear his side. No offense to you
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:06 PM #9
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(from the screenshots of text msgs)
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you think I give ****?
is how he feels.

I'd be interested in what he comes up with to justify what amounts to theft.

If I steal my neighbors car and then 14 days later return it unharmed, did I still steal it? YES

also, OP since you used your credit card through paypal, you also have the ability to attempt recourse through the credit card itself.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:14 PM #10
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Yeah I Know lol. I have had to do this before I just posted this up to warn other people and show he plans to leave retaliatory feedback.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:22 PM #11
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Id post the link to this thread in all of his bst threads... and any threads he is attempting to buy from other members in..
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:33 PM #12
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He has negative feedback so that should be warning enough. Plus I could get infracted for spamming doing that.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:11 AM #13
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Leave him negative feedback please. It can be removed if he retaliates.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:17 AM #14
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Already done.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:11 PM #15
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Well, his thread for the Vic says that Element Paintball PMed him on the 18th, and then Element says that it is gone to him as of the 18th. I see that this tends to fall in line with what you shown as far as the dates go, but how is that not a scam? I mean he gets this guys money, and still keeps accepting offers well after that? His thread, which is closed now, has four offers on it, up to nine days after disturbed paid for it. Seems to me that he was been upping his own thread. So doesn't that speak of a scam to anyone else?
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:22 PM #16
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It does reek of a scam. I mean there have been plenty of times that I wanted to take another offer after a guy has already paid or already shipped but unlike this guy I have integrity and honor those original deals.
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I would have to agree on a ban of the guy. Money was sent to him for the marker and then he made another deal. He should have at least sent Disturbed his money back immediately. He should not be given any further opportunity to defraud others. As someone pointed out in the other thread, he has had other accounts that were banned for improper feedback practices. He lied saying he got the PC from someone else who had been banned. Accounts are bound to IP given by ISPs, not the PC. He continues to lie and be deceitful. /rant
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I also paid for this marker. He says it's shipping on Monday. I Paid 721.21 now every thread he has made is locked. Really been wanting a ripper since they were released so I hope he's actually got the thing. I noticed now that he used the exact same pictures in a bst thread almost a year ago.
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:15 PM #19
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I also paid for this marker. He says it's shipping on Monday. I Paid 721.21 now every thread he has made is locked. Really been wanting a ripper since they were released so I hope he's actually got the thing. I noticed now that he used the exact same pictures in a bst thread almost a year ago.
Dont expect to get it, he said he sold locally..

File paypal NOW.. dont wait.. NOW..

if by some small miracle it does show up on your door (assuming he didnt give you tracking) ,and it works,no issues ect.. you can either refund the money back or send back the marker..

Dont wait to find out if you fell victim too.
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Dont expect to get it, he said he sold locally..

File paypal NOW.. dont wait.. NOW..

if by some small miracle it does show up on your door (assuming he didnt give you tracking) ,and it works,no issues ect.. you can either refund the money back or send back the marker..

Dont wait to find out if you fell victim too.
^^ this ^^

perhaps you guys want to make police reports as well.
nothing says "you're in trouble, make this right" like po-po at the door.

Also, Element, you should make your own thread with screenshots and all that.

if a box shows up, UNBOXING VIDEO is a MUST
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I don't recall if anyone mentioned it

his last activity on PBN was the 8th saying best cash offer takes it

as the screenshots show, he had received payment on the 7th.

messed up computer stories.... seem to be just stories.

hope paypal sees through the BS and gets your $$ back fast.
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