[firefoxx04]

Originally Posted by Rampager2000

Typing on a phone so bare with me..

I have a girl who is straight considering dumping her bf of 2 years for a chance wifh me, exact words.. a classic boyfriend destroyer. ive been flirting with her for ages but sunk the hook while i was in FL on vacation. She asked her best friend what she shoild do and she suggested to cheat. I mean, shes serious.

Backstory: we used to work together. Didnt do much but i flirted enoigh to keep **** open. When i was visiting we hung out like 5 times 1 on 1 but i never pushed too hard. I wanted to let the idea sink in and act on that. I mentioned her a few days.ago as the girl im gaming different than usual. I actually consider her a friend and never wanted to lose that. This situation only further goes to prove it girld and guys cant be friends.

So OGPT, what do?

Originally Posted by chaoz

So here goes a long one and I will tl;dr at the very bottom for all you A.D.D. kids...

I was dating this girl for almost 10 months. First real relationship (I'm almost 21 now to give you an idea) We broke up about 2 months ago and about 3 weeks ago her ex best friend and I started talking. Turns out my ex had been cheating on me for over 5 months with some dude at her work. (he's 29 she was 19, he has a kid, no college education, will be a career server his entire life and was engaged when they started seeing each other) Also a few weeks before we broke up I went to the doctor who told me I had chalmydia (sp?)... turns out he gave it to her, she gave it to me, and she blammed me for it and said that i must have been cheating...

So needless to say I was pretty heart broken hearing that news and when I called her out on it she wouldn't even admit it. I lost 15lbs in 2 weeks and was going in and out of depression and having panic attacks. Well that part is better now but I now feel like an *** hole. I started dating the girl that told me this info and we were talking for close to two weeks. Apparently I'm an extremely nice guy and no guy had ever treated her the way I treated her and she really fell for me. We messed around a few times but never went all the way but today I told her I wasn't emotionally ready for a relationship and pretty much broke her heart. lol What sucks is that she is honestly one of the nicest and sweetest people I've ever met and she helped me so much when I was going through all that **** with my ex.

My question is what do i do? I really want to be friends with this girl but at the same time she really really likes me. And I know myself that if we hangout and she tries to put the moves on me or lean in for a kiss I would have a really hard time denying it. (plus she's amazing and certain activities if you know what i'm sayin) But i've never really friend traped a girl before so what's the best way to go about this??

Tl;dr, i lied about making one... sorry.

[chaoz]

Youre name isnt Ryan is it? I will find you and I will kill you

[Rampager2000]

Originally Posted by bubbleboy016

"If she'll do it to him, she'll do it to you" - Depends if you just want a F-buddy or to date the chick. If you're just banging her with no emotional attachments, go for it, expect some baggage. If there are emotional attachments, on either end, prepare for baggage. Really, there's going to be baggage there either way.

Not looking for a relationship.. FWB at most, but i wanna keep her as a friend

Originally Posted by firefoxx04

Haha.

Originally Posted by chaoz

Youre name isnt Ryan is it? I will find you and I will kill you

Close.. and i was in clearwater recently haha

Funny, we went down to indian rocks beach one day. I was right by you

[chaoz]

I don't live in CLW anymore now I live no joke 4 mins from IRB. Shoulda hit me up man! We could have partied like it was 1999

[Rampager2000]

Clearwater, IRB, same place to me.

Ill prolly be down when i move in august 12th with this girl again. Ill try and remember to hit you up and help you kill a 29 year old

[rammstein_5v2]

Originally Posted by chaoz

Didn't want to bang her until i knew if i wanted to date her. Dont want to date her, so there will be no banging.

Wut?

[Watermelondrea]

Originally Posted by chaoz

yea, thanks man. I mean if i was bad to her i'd kinda understand a little but nope. (and you got the super short version of what happened) Wish i could get back the expensive *** necklace I gave her for christmas.

"You know that necklace I bought you for Christmas? Wear it next time you're ****ing and scream my name in the process."

[Tomvec629]

try to see if you can pass that cleavage challenge thing, then go back and think about your problem
http://cubetitans.com/cleavage-challenge/cc-1/

[xFSUxlaxflip]

Originally Posted by chaoz

So here goes a long one and I will tl;dr at the very bottom for all you A.D.D. kids...

I was dating this girl for almost 10 months. First real relationship (I'm almost 21 now to give you an idea) We broke up about 2 months ago and about 3 weeks ago her ex best friend and I started talking. Turns out my ex had been cheating on me for over 5 months with some dude at her work. (he's 29 she was 19, he has a kid, no college education, will be a career server his entire life and was engaged when they started seeing each other) Also a few weeks before we broke up I went to the doctor who told me I had chalmydia (sp?)... turns out he gave it to her, she gave it to me, and she blammed me for it and said that i must have been cheating...

So needless to say I was pretty heart broken hearing that news and when I called her out on it she wouldn't even admit it. I lost 15lbs in 2 weeks and was going in and out of depression and having panic attacks. Well that part is better now but I now feel like an *** hole. I started dating the girl that told me this info and we were talking for close to two weeks. Apparently I'm an extremely nice guy and no guy had ever treated her the way I treated her and she really fell for me. We messed around a few times but never went all the way but today I told her I wasn't emotionally ready for a relationship and pretty much broke her heart. lol What sucks is that she is honestly one of the nicest and sweetest people I've ever met and she helped me so much when I was going through all that **** with my ex.

My question is what do i do? I really want to be friends with this girl but at the same time she really really likes me. And I know myself that if we hangout and she tries to put the moves on me or lean in for a kiss I would have a really hard time denying it. (plus she's amazing and certain activities if you know what i'm sayin) But i've never really friend traped a girl before so what's the best way to go about this??

Tl;dr, i lied about making one... sorry.

Originally Posted by bubbleboy016

Man up and don't lie to me.


As far as your "issue" approach her with the fact that, "Hey earlier when I said I wasn't emotionally read for another relationship, I just wanted to clarify since you looked distraught when I told you. I just got out of a relationship, you know that, and I'm not sure I'm quite ready for another one yet. I don't want you to just be a rebound girl, you know? Lets just keep things going the way they are and not label anything until we're both mutually ready"

- Boom.It's called talking things out while not letting her down or closing your opportunities.

NUFF SAID

[Curt_Engelhorn]

First off, I want to thank a lot of the posters that have helped me in the past with my girl situation. She initiated contact with me after classes ended; and this led to us hanging out this past weekend for most of the afternoon and then meeting 2 other people for dinner. I paid for her dinner and went out of my way to make sure she got to her destination safely. Beta probably but now at least I would think she'll know I'm interested in her for sure.

During the time we spent together certain things she said made me think she was interested while others had the opposite effect, and still others made me think she might see me as a "close friend" despite only knowing each other for a relative short time.

I'm honestly disappointed by my performance though. I usually have no trouble finding things to talk about with her, but I only managed to find a few interesting conversation topics for the past weekend. Maybe it's just that we feel comfortable to share the silence now but I think it was my nerves getting to me.

Plan A Because I still don't know if she's interested I'm going back to my original plan of getting in great shape by the end of summer (I'm fit but would like a little more muscle) and throwing a party at my place at the beginning of the semester where I'll make a riskier move than what I'm used to. The party will be thrown by a club I am a part of, but because it will be at my place I can plan it the way I want and I will be attempting to make it an epic one. If anything, the alchohol would at least help us both loosen up a bit.

Plan BIf the previous plan fails, I can only think of taking a direct approach and inviting her to dinner and just coming clean about my feelings to her. I know that this usually leads to an awkward interaction if the feeling isn't mutual but I will need to take a risk eventually and I'm out of ideas to assess her interest indirectly. I'd especially like to get everyone's thoughts on this plan since it seems to be the riskiest.

TL;DR: I'd like to get your thoughts on my plans to get with a girl, after hanging out with her last weekend with no more insight to her interest than I had before the weekend.

You guys have already helped me out a bunch, I can't thank you enough.

[Rampager2000]

Completely disregard that Plan B.

[bubbleboy016]

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

Plan A Because I still don't know if she's interested I'm going back to my original plan of getting in great shape by the end of summer (I'm fit but would like a little more muscle) and throwing a party at my place at the beginning of the semester where I'll make a riskier move than what I'm used to. The party will be thrown by a club I am a part of, but because it will be at my place I can plan it the way I want and I will be attempting to make it an epic one. If anything, the alchohol would at least help us both loosen up a bit.

Taking care of yourself in order to become comfortable with yourself and what you do is absolutely number one to higher confidence. If you want to bulk up and lean out a bit, do it, regardless of if its for her or not. It needs to be for you. Anyways, increased confidence means less anxiousness/nervousness when you're around her, or others, you're naturally more comfortable. Parties are fun. But don't get so caught up over this one chick (I do realize "easier said than done"). But you're putting the ***** on the pedestal, you're placing your value/worth below hers and trying to do grandeur things to make it appear you're worth the same/more, all for her. In essence, you're the one putting yourself in the friend zone.

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

Plan BIf the previous plan fails, I can only think of taking a direct approach and inviting her to dinner and just coming clean about my feelings to her. I know that this usually leads to an awkward interaction if the feeling isn't mutual but I will need to take a risk eventually and I'm out of ideas to assess her interest indirectly. I'd especially like to get everyone's thoughts on this plan since it seems to be the riskiest.

Originally Posted by Rampager2000

Completely disregard that Plan B.

Horrible plan. That fairy tale **** where the guy professes his love and she says me too and then they go get married, only happens in movies. Ask any one of your guy friends, any one of them, I am willing to bet $20 paypal that 9/10 will tell you not to do it, guys in relationships don't count, the rules of interaction change for them. That other one, he's just like you, caught trying to figure out how to build attraction. I can tell you, from personal experience, that it will never work. You confess your feelings and it's guaranteed, nearly scripted response, a softening blow followed by no and then finally LJBF, "Aww, that's really sweet, I like you too. But I don't want to ruin our friendship. Let's just be friends" or some variant. At which point you will have to end up just freezing her out in an attempt to build silent attraction.

Really, you should just skip all the bull****/emotions with her and go straight into a freeze out. Just stop talking to her for some time, talk to old contacts (no exes), get new contacts, focus on yourself and your self image. Take time off to become comfortable with who you are, don't get all gay or ****, and find the natural confidence. Continue lurking/posting here asking for advice and learn more about social interaction. If you're already lost as to how to display emotions after one date with her, you either A) need to learn more or B) it's not natural chemistry between you two. Either way, when you feel better, then go talk to home girl near the start of the semester again and invite her to that party.

[smalltalkerguy]

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

certain things she said made me think she was interested while others had the opposite effect, and still others made me think she might see me as a "close friend" despite only knowing each other for a relative short time.

what are you a f$#(# mind reader? your over analyzing this and stressing yourself out. you have two options.

1. pick up the phone, call her, tell her how you feel starting with "I" and then ask her how she feels.

2. freez her out, forget her, get big and do other dimes.

best of luck

[Curt_Engelhorn]

Originally Posted by bubbleboy016

Taking care of yourself in order to become comfortable with yourself and what you do is absolutely number one to higher confidence. If you want to bulk up and lean out a bit, do it, regardless of if its for her or not. It needs to be for you. Anyways, increased confidence means less anxiousness/nervousness when you're around her, or others, you're naturally more comfortable. Parties are fun. But don't get so caught up over this one chick (I do realize "easier said than done"). But you're putting the ***** on the pedestal, you're placing your value/worth below hers and trying to do grandeur things to make it appear you're worth the same/more, all for her. In essence, you're the one putting yourself in the friend zone.






Horrible plan. That fairy tale **** where the guy professes his love and she says me too and then they go get married, only happens in movies. Ask any one of your guy friends, any one of them, I am willing to bet $20 paypal that 9/10 will tell you not to do it, guys in relationships don't count, the rules of interaction change for them. That other one, he's just like you, caught trying to figure out how to build attraction. I can tell you, from personal experience, that it will never work. You confess your feelings and it's guaranteed, nearly scripted response, a softening blow followed by no and then finally LJBF, "Aww, that's really sweet, I like you too. But I don't want to ruin our friendship. Let's just be friends" or some variant. At which point you will have to end up just freezing her out in an attempt to build silent attraction.

Really, you should just skip all the bull****/emotions with her and go straight into a freeze out. Just stop talking to her for some time, talk to old contacts (no exes), get new contacts, focus on yourself and your self image. Take time off to become comfortable with who you are, don't get all gay or ****, and find the natural confidence. Continue lurking/posting here asking for advice and learn more about social interaction. If you're already lost as to how to display emotions after one date with her, you either A) need to learn more or B) it's not natural chemistry between you two. Either way, when you feel better, then go talk to home girl near the start of the semester again and invite her to that party.

The working out thing is something I had been planning on doing for a while, but it's not only for this one girl. She was probably the biggest motivational factor but, regardless on how it turns out, I'll still be working out.

As for plan B, I never expected it to be a high success rate and I am normally the first guy to talk a friend out of such a high risk move like that with little chance of reward. If plan A doesn't work, however, I don't see any other option. I have never been able to pull off a successful freeze out, despite trying it several times; it usually just leads to the girl forgetting about me or she just won't pursue contact after I turn her down a few times.

I feel like I should be proactive especially because we are going into our last year of university and, though she lives close to me, either of us could end up anywhere depending on where our course of study takes us. Also if I freeze her out theres a chance that another guy could get her attention. The major issue with freezing out has got to be time for sure.

I'll give freezing out another go for sure, but what else can I do if plan A doesn't work? The only proactive approach I can think of at that point is the direct approach and we all agree that that it would have little chance of success.

[R2-D2]

you ugly!

here's alternative. revise plan b, don't set the stage for embarrassment. talk to her in person at one of your homes so you spare yourself the embarrassment of an awkward dinner or finishing dinner alone. then your disappointment won't sting as much.

[Rampager2000]

Originally Posted by smalltalkerguy

what are you a f$#(# mind reader? your over analyzing this and stressing yourself out. you have two options.

1. pick up the phone, call her, tell her how you feel starting with "I" and then ask her how she feels.

2. freez her out, forget her, get big and do other dimes.

best of luck

I mean this kindly when I say you should probably observe more than you give advice here, until you can give a little better advice. Seriously, this is constructive criticism.

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

The working out thing is something I had been planning on doing for a while, but it's not only for this one girl. She was probably the biggest motivational factor but, regardless on how it turns out, I'll still be working out.

As for plan B, I never expected it to be a high success rate and I am normally the first guy to talk a friend out of such a high risk move like that with little chance of reward. If plan A doesn't work, however, I don't see any other option. I have never been able to pull off a successful freeze out, despite trying it several times; it usually just leads to the girl forgetting about me or she just won't pursue contact after I turn her down a few times.

I feel like I should be proactive especially because we are going into our last year of university and, though she lives close to me, either of us could end up anywhere depending on where our course of study takes us. Also if I freeze her out theres a chance that another guy could get her attention. The major issue with freezing out has got to be time for sure.

I'll give freezing out another go for sure, but what else can I do if plan A doesn't work? The only proactive approach I can think of at that point is the direct approach and we all agree that that it would have little chance of success.

Here's how I think you should approach this.

Plan A: Hang out with her again, but this time don't be a ***** about flirting and hanging out. You NEED to make physical contact. You need to observe how she responds to that, how she flirts, if she makes contact back; especially given the situation you put yourself in in the first place. You can tell almost everything you need to know about how a girl feels about you within a few minutes of hanging out. You obviously don't have a problem over-analyzing situations, so do it again. But, at the same time, be sure to not get too caught up in thinking about ****, like you did before. Have fun, be yourself, and flirt. If you see she is being a little withdrawn and isn't digging a lot of physical contact, tone it down a bit and try to make fewer advances, but to make them more meaningful. For example, and this is a bad one, if she said something said, you could grab her hand or touch her arm or something while saying, "Sorry." You get the idea, I think.

This is the best way to tell for sure if you ****ed up, while also putting yourself in the situation to fix the problem. If she is still on the wall about you, then a freeze out can actually be counter-productive because now she will still have those same iffy feeling about you, and they only transform into thinking you're shady and disappear a lot. This way, if she is still iffy, you can fix it. If she thinks you're a nice guy and would never show you her tits, then you know to freeze out.. And if she really is interested, but maybe just a little shy and less experiences, you win.

You just have to learn to not get caught up in the moment and make meaningful advances.

Plan B: Freeze that ***** out. Don't talk to her until you see her again or you have a good reason to talk to her in a few months, weeks, whatever. When you do talk to her, assuming it was meaningful, ride the coat tails of that and use it as the excuse to make moves. Do a lot of what I said before, just be sure to be a little more cautious at first, as coming on too strong the moment you meet girls, especially shy ones, will turn them off quite quickly.

I strongly recommend having a good idea, like a special day, a holiday, a birthday, something. You don't want to end a freeze out with, "Hey, long time no talk... Let's hang." Will it work? Maybe. But with this, you want a better chance and I feel a good reason increases those chances. This is more of an opinion that has worked for me, though.

Plan C: If all else fails, hang out one more time and tell her how you feel. What do you have to lose? The initial moves didn't work, a freeze out didn't, nothing has. Either she's really ****ing shy or considers you a best friend.

To be honest, I wouldn't even do Plan C. But if you're deadset on this girl, it's at the point of having nothing to lose.

Good luck with her, and get big over summer!

[smalltalkerguy]

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

I have never been able to pull off a successful freeze out, despite trying it several times; it usually just leads to the girl forgetting about me or she just won't pursue contact after I turn her down a few times.

yeah bro that's the whole point.

[DevilSauce]

Originally Posted by Curt_Engelhorn

The working out thing is something I had been planning on doing for a while, but it's not only for this one girl. She was probably the biggest motivational factor but, regardless on how it turns out, I'll still be working out.

As for plan B, I never expected it to be a high success rate and I am normally the first guy to talk a friend out of such a high risk move like that with little chance of reward. If plan A doesn't work, however, I don't see any other option. I have never been able to pull off a successful freeze out, despite trying it several times; it usually just leads to the girl forgetting about me or she just won't pursue contact after I turn her down a few times.

I feel like I should be proactive especially because we are going into our last year of university and, though she lives close to me, either of us could end up anywhere depending on where our course of study takes us. Also if I freeze her out theres a chance that another guy could get her attention. The major issue with freezing out has got to be time for sure.

I'll give freezing out another go for sure, but what else can I do if plan A doesn't work? The only proactive approach I can think of at that point is the direct approach and we all agree that that it would have little chance of success.

I'm no expert on anything, so take anything I say for what it's worth. We're all trying to give advice here - these are the things I thought of when reading about your situation. If you've never read "The Art of Seduction" or "The 48 Laws of Power", those books are definitely worth a read. Confidence is something you can develop; knowing the ins and outs of social dynamics can also be a big boon to your confidence. "The Art of Seduction", in particular, is really helpful for finding ways to analyze the social behaviours of others and ourselves.

One concept that Greene mentions in TAOS is "anti-seducer traits", which I think might be the most helpful chapter in the whole book - because even if you can read people really well and learn how to use their emotions to your benefit, the easiest person to change is, ultimately, yourself. Insecurity is of course the root of all social evils - you probably already knew that.

The anti-seducer's traits:

"The Brute": this is the person who is so caught up in his own emotional/physical needs that he fails to acknowledge the needs of others. You might be so focused on getting what you want that you unable to distance yourself from the situation, thereby failing to see vital clues that could show you how to win over your romantic interest.

"The Suffocater": this person is usually too quick to develop an emotional attachment. By doing so, you put pressure on the other person - and pressure is anti-seductive. Usually these people are awkward (have a hard time making conversation, etc.) Very similar to "the Brute". This is why your plan B is a bad idea - you will take that girl out, confess your feelings to her, and give her no choice but to make a split second decision, which she will do with regard to the pressure she feels has been put upon her. Boom, friend zone, because it's safe, easy, and there's no pressure.

"The Moralizer": (this happens to be my strongest anti-seductive quality) This is the person who fails to act because of moral quandaries. I feel like (based on the info you gave) that you're probably ok here, but if you find yourself rigid in social situations, you might be the kind of person who uses moralization to avoid the potential of failures or social ridicule - i.e., the person who says that going out to a club to dance is stupid and a waste of time - though they are, in my humble opinion, absolutely correct - it might be a defense mechanism to avoid looking stupid or having to feel super beta in an alpha-dominated social scene. Just consider it when you're making conversation and stuff - save politics and rhetorically charged convos for a more intimate and appropriate setting; avoid thinking of things in terms of "stupid" or what have you. Lighten the **** up!

"the Tightwad": again, didn't see this one popping up in your story, but make sure that you're willing ENOUGH (don't be a pushover) to give MEANINGFULLY of your time. If you spend enough time studying this girl you're into, you'll find some stuff that she would actually be super plussed by, and then give it to her humbly and without remarking that you're being generous. This one is about manners. Learn not to make yourself so important that the needs of others can't come before your own.

"the Bumbler": if you find yourself forcing conversation, you might be "bumbling". Usually this come out of a fear of looking socially inept, but all it does is heighten the appearance of social awkwardness, and puts pressure on the "target" by making them feel as if they are in a forced situation. The key, according to Greene (what I have written in my notebook) is boldness and timing. Learn to play with silence, etc. Don't keep reaching for conversation topics - let them come to you. Let her do some talking and do some active listening to carry the conversation forward. Being the person who talks the most is usually a bad sign! Don't put that sort of negative pressure on yourself.

"the Windbag": pretty closely related to the Bumbler, but usually the person who spends a lot of time singing their own praise, or making promises/statements they can't keep/back up. Everyone is, at their core, most interested in themselves. Think about it: our point of access to the universe is through our own existence. We are naturally most concerned with our own situations and how those situations might affect us. Get people to talk about themselves and they will feel that you are somehow naturally a part of their interests. Use people's own vanity and self interest against them. At least, that's Greene's theory.

"the Reactor": again, I didn't really see anything that would match Greene's prototype for "the Reactor" in your story. But the reactor is the kind of person who appears to be out of control. For example, if someone teases you and you make a slightly-too-malicious comment in response, you are "reacting" and are thus not in control. This would seem to have a wide variety of applications: if the conversation is heading in a direction you don't like, gracefully change it into one you do. Don't let circumstance dictate your emotional state. If someone makes fun of you (a beta move for sure), handle the teasing with good humour and take the steam out of their engines. By the same token, be comfortable teasing others GENTLY and with taste, etc., don't wait for everything to happen to you - because then all you CAN do is react.

"the Vulgarian": this one is pretty easy. Don't be a crude, vulgar asshat. You can be alpha without making dick jokes or slandering the beliefs of others, especially if you are intelligent and self-possessed. Doesn't seem relevant to your story per se, but it's something to be aware of when considering what sorts of behaviours we engage in that might turn others off to our presence.

Anyways, that stuff is out of my notes. But I make a point to read over it every so often to remind myself of things I say and do that might be making others uncomfortable. To me (again, not an expert at PUA stuff, what have you) it sounds great that you're willing to put in an effort. That's chivalrous and noble and it suggests that you are aware of both your own needs and the needs of others. However it did sound an awful lot to me like you might be setting up to put a lot of pressure on this girl, and it might not work. A lot of the PUA stuff that says to freeze a girl out is, at least by my interpretation (in regard to Greene and others), to take pressure of your target AND yourself so that you can salvage a situation in which pressure has reared its ugly head. There are billions of fish in the sea, and they ALL have something to offer. Well, maybe not the fat ones.

[Smart Parts Player12]

think she'll flake?


saw this girl a week or two ago and said a quick hello.

Texted her yesterday with this cheeky text, basically offering her the once in a lifetime opportunity to come out with me.

her- oh is it? i'd like to but I close at work tomorrow:/
me- wed or thurs
her- i close on thurs and I have xxxx until 8 wed that's the earliest i get off
me- well third time is a charm, something quick and local to eat at 8?
her- yes that would work!
me- ok cool gotta get back to work cya wednesday
her- have fun haha ill see you then.

I'm pretty positive she's going to show up but just want to get an outside opinion of the conversation.

[pacasowithagun]

Originally Posted by Smart Parts Player12

think she'll flake?


saw this girl a week or two ago and said a quick hello.

Texted her yesterday with this cheeky text, basically offering her the once in a lifetime opportunity to come out with me.

her- oh is it? i'd like to but I close at work tomorrow:/
me- wed or thurs
her- i close on thurs and I have xxxx until 8 wed that's the earliest i get off
me- well third time is a charm, something quick and local to eat at 8?
her- yes that would work!
me- ok cool gotta get back to work cya wednesday
her- have fun haha ill see you then.

I'm pretty positive she's going to show up but just want to get an outside opinion of the conversation.

Who cares? Stop reading into her words. She said yes, so you can only trust that she was telling the truth.

[PuNisHeR--]

I ****ed this girl the other day, developed interest in her. She had just dumped her BF so i knew a lot of baggage would be involved. But I later found out she's ****ed 28 guys, and has been in two 3 year relationships. And she was open to say that she has cheated on her boyfriends. Kinda made me disappointed, wished she was different. Definitely not going to beat myself up over it and dwell on it though.

Other news, met a girl at the club while on-line to get inside about 2 weeks ago. We made out a lot that night, and we happen to be going on a date on thursday. Should be fun!