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Old 06-19-2012, 08:52 PM #22
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The issue has been resolved. I bought the gun not knowing it was stolen. I have spoke with Josh and everything is resolved. Get off my back. I had no idea this had happened. Everything is resolved. Thanks.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:18 PM #23
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The issue has been resolved. I bought the gun not knowing it was stolen. I have spoke with Josh and everything is resolved. Get off my back. I had no idea this had happened. Everything is resolved. Thanks.
Not so fast. If you claim you never get the Timmy like your PM said (see screenshots), how are you going to send it back? If you never sent the Axe to Josh why did you put the Timmy for sale on Craigslist? If you live in SF Bay Area why did you get the Timmy sent to Joliet, IL? There are too many loose ends for you to simply say "everything is resolved, get off my back!"

OP, did you get the Timmy back, and full refund of the $50?
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:20 PM #24
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He traded the gun. I am sending out the gun tomorrow. We have spoke on the phone and it has been worke out.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:37 PM #25
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Thanks for the help everyone. I spoke with DVHS12 via phone earlier today, he is in no way guilty of anything here. There are two different people here, DVHS12 is NOT the person who ripped me off and he's been very understanding and professional throughout the entire ordeal and he has been more than willing to help resolve the issue.

The issue is resolved as far as getting everything worked out through a third party and a very generous donation to help things work out. I am still working on reporting Addison Haney to the police as soon as I get the marker back in my hands.

DVHS12, apologies for you getting mixed into this whole mess. Definitely didn't mean to cause much trouble for you. Thanks again for helping out with this whole mess
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:50 PM #26
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Thanks for the help everyone. I spoke with DVHS12 via phone earlier today, he is in no way guilty of anything here. There are two different people here, DVHS12 is NOT the person who ripped me off and he's been very understanding and professional throughout the entire ordeal and he has been more than willing to help resolve the issue.

The issue is resolved as far as getting everything worked out through a third party and a very generous donation to help things work out. I am still working on reporting Addison Haney to the police as soon as I get the marker back in my hands.

DVHS12, apologies for you getting mixed into this whole mess. Definitely didn't mean to cause much trouble for you. Thanks again for helping out with this whole mess
Thank you man. Glad I was able to help.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:05 PM #27
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Got it, dvhs12 and haney#45 are not the same person.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:11 AM #28
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From what I have seen, it seems that haney#45 offered the marker up for sale almost immediately here on the Nation. Not sure if the deal happened here, or elsewhere, but it looks like dvhs12 was the unwitting person who bought or traded with haney#45, and ended up having the marker when it reappeared. Honestly, dvhs12 might not have been brought into this at all, if he hadn't used photojosh's original pictures.

*Edit* From what I can see, haney#45 did a shadow deal to unload the Empire 2, and it got to mastagiese (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...856&highlight=) who then legitimately, or so all believed, sold it/traded it to dvhs12.

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:01 PM #29
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As most of you probably know, if you buy a stolen marker you're still required to give it back to the original owner, even if you pay for it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:15 PM #30
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None of the previous purchasers were willing to do so, even with the knowledge that they possessed stolen merchandise.
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:06 PM #31
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Yeah, they all end up getting screwed out of the money, and don't feel like going after the scammer that sold it to them. Even if they end up taking the guy to small claims court and win, because the person is not local to them, they are pretty pressed to get restitution.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:05 PM #32
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Oh, you are wrong in that assumption. The only person out money plays at the same fields as the scammer.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:45 PM #33
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Oh, you are wrong in that assumption. The only person out money plays at the same fields as the scammer.
Do you know them?
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:32 AM #34
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So let me get this straight, you can scam someone and still be able to sell on this site? jesus christ, Ban that mofo. No wonder PBNation has the reputation it has. You let scammers return after its been proven they have scammed someone.

Glad to hear you got your marker back man. Looks amazing.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:55 PM #35
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Unfortunately if you gave him a tracking number its prolly not his address. He could have had it shipped anywhere since he lnew when he had to pick it up. The fact that its an elderly persons residents supports this also unfortunately
but good luck man hope you get your gun backk
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:41 AM #36
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Oh, you are wrong in that assumption. The only person out money plays at the same fields as the scammer.
It's not an assumption. How many people have you seen that bought something from someone, not knowing that it was stolen, but then had to turn it over to the person that it was stolen from? From that, how many people have you seen get their money back? Through what method did the person get their money back? And now, let's complicate this, as it directly applies here, what about when a victim is in one state, the scammer is in another state, and the person who bought the stolen property is in a third, and different state, from the other two?

For person #3, they end up having to give the stolen property back to the victim, and they only way that they can get their money back, unless it is a really large enough amount of money to make this worthwhile for the courts, is to take the scammer to small claims court. Most likely, the scammer won't go and fight this in small claims court, and so, person #3 wins. So how do they collect the money? Start talking to a collection agency. Collection agencies end up buying these things for less than the full amount. Maybe. Usually, quite a bit less. But that may also be if they deal with individuals. Typically, they only deal with businesses.

So who is out their hard earned money?
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:49 AM #37
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I am. I bought the marker from DVHS12 and gave it back to photojosh.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:09 AM #38
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I have Addison Haney added on Facebook, met through a nation deal, so let me know if I could help you there.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:59 PM #39
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I am. I bought the marker from DVHS12 and gave it back to photojosh.
And Brochsie is probably my favorite person in the world right now
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I have Addison Haney added on Facebook, met through a nation deal, so let me know if I could help you there.
Hey man, add me on Facebook. Josh Unruh, profile picture is the dude with the camo cap
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:03 PM #41
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I am. I bought the marker from DVHS12 and gave it back to photojosh.
You are one stand up guy, my man. I'm impressed.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:01 AM #42
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i happen to live in the area. im sure he plays at fields that I do/I could make a house visit? PM me if you want any local help, as I probably wont be back in this thread. I'm just a 3am lurker
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