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06-08-2012, 07:12 PM
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proud gmax owner!!!
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: woburn MA.
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You will see gains with the adjustable guide as long as it's set properly aslisted in the spring mod thread. But due to the size and location of the ports on the HE bolt you wont see as much of a gain as you would from a NDZ v3m and adjustable guide setup like it says in the spring mod thread.
And polishing parts is a gimik and a total downgrade from stock. Stock parts are made so they are porus to hold lube with an adequately smooth surface. And thats why your polished parts require more maintenance.
A stock bolt surface with properly fitted orings > polished parts.
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06-08-2012, 08:06 PM
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#107
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Dr Nick
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
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^^^
I agree. Anodized surfaces are harder and more resistant to wear and scratching. In a properly engineered marker, the surface roughness has actually been optimized to hold lube and minimize friction. Sounds crazy, but it is sometimes that case that slightly rough surfaces generate less friction that perfectly smooth ones. Perfectly smooth surfaces have a greater amount of surface contact. Polishing parts to reduce friction generally means loosening tolerances with the seals. I'd rather just properly fit my orings and frankly I'd rather have high reliability with a little friction than reduced friction but FSDO and lube sensitivity!!
A high quality stock finish with properly fitted and broken in orings > polished parts.
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06-08-2012, 08:19 PM
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#108
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blazin'
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: CENTRAL FLORIDA
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Unless you're talking about a type3 anno with isolated polishing where the static orings sit.
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06-08-2012, 09:03 PM
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#109
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stormtroopers can't shoot
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: A galaxy far, far away
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well thanks guys, I could always look for a stock HE bolt. I have an ndz v3 in my SFT and I just bought a rhino spring with a spring-ready ndz stinger v3 so maybe I ought to start looking at adjustables.
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06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
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#110
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proud gmax owner!!!
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: woburn MA.
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Originally Posted by Shooter28
Unless you're talking about a type3 anno with isolated polishing where the static orings sit.
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If your hell bent on polishing parts this is the way to go. The isolated mod gives smooth where needed and porus where needed. But you still wont ever find polished parts in any of my guns. Just a downgrade IMO.
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06-12-2012, 04:17 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dublin, Ohio
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Came on here today, because it was yesterday's tomorrow, but now I realize that it's not coming out until today's tomorrow. I only hope that I don't have to wait until tomorrow's tomorrow.
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06-12-2012, 06:27 PM
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#112
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TC Lansing
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lansing MI
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You only have to wait until tomorrow. Nobody said anything about tomorrows tomorrow... But there will always be another tomorrow.. Tomorrow...
Confused yet?
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06-13-2012, 08:47 PM
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#113
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Shire-Middle Earth
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Hey all, just curious if there are any problems with the coated bolts. I got mine but haven't gotten to use it yet and today is pretty much my first time back into paintball
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06-13-2012, 09:11 PM
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#114
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proud gmax owner!!!
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: woburn MA.
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Mine works perfect
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06-13-2012, 09:21 PM
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#115
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16,100
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: World Wide
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Funny, I deleted this thread about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and come back and tomorrow has yet to come. Lulz
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06-14-2012, 10:37 AM
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The One & Only
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Tomorrow never dies...
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06-15-2012, 07:47 AM
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Watch out for Snakes!!
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Vallejo, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UNDRPRVLGD_V2
Funny, I deleted this thread about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and come back and tomorrow has yet to come. Lulz
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Lol I know the feeling. I stayed off PbN for a couple months and came back hoping to see a release. Guess it's still coming out tomorrow.
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06-15-2012, 09:11 PM
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#118
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Aruba Bandits
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Aruba
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tomorrow is only a day away
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06-18-2012, 09:13 PM
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whoop whoop whoop whoop
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Hey guys I played the other day and I was able to get a hopper and 4 pods off a cool 3k fill in my 68/45. Dwell at 12ms shooting 280. Thoughts? Are those numbers along what you guys getting?
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06-18-2012, 09:50 PM
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#120
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SmartBallerPB
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: PHX, AZ
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Originally Posted by bcrguy
Hey guys I played the other day and I was able to get a hopper and 4 pods off a cool 3k fill in my 68/45. Dwell at 12ms shooting 280. Thoughts? Are those numbers along what you guys getting?
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What Noid you running?
My NXT with a Humphery is getting @ 5 and hopper dwell at 10.5 at 260 fps but have not tested the parker noid shocker with the same fill
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06-18-2012, 09:57 PM
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whoop whoop whoop whoop
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by war009
What Noid you running?
My NXT with a Humphery is getting @ 5 and hopper dwell at 10.5 at 260 fps but have not tested the parker noid shocker with the same fill
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Parker noid. I was running the dwell at 10 before but it had some drop off issues with my other tank so I upped it. Also the field was only filling to 3k which sucks.
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ninja'd Spire, ninja'd Rotor, Ninja Air 68/45, ninja'd Dye i4's,
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06-18-2012, 10:00 PM
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#122
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SmartBallerPB
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: PHX, AZ
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My field does that too...but yah it should run lower than that
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06-18-2012, 10:08 PM
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whoop whoop whoop whoop
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'm gonna try it back at 10 and see how she shoots. I need to bring the abs setting down too.
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ninja'd Spire, ninja'd Rotor, Ninja Air 68/45, ninja'd Dye i4's,
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06-18-2012, 11:22 PM
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#124
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stormtroopers can't shoot
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: A galaxy far, far away
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I have a sprung nxt that runs at 15-16 ms dwell at 300fps. this weekend at the tournament I had it at 190 psi input and I was getting a full prophecy+ 4 full pods and was still at 2300 psi (filled to about 4200 psi). that was the best efficiency I think I've ever had. I'd say it was really good for such high dwell and input pressure. anyway my whole point is that you may find the dwell not to be the most important part of air efficiency. paying close attention to oring tolerances has been the biggest thing with mine
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06-19-2012, 08:37 AM
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#125
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vGisgo
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Livonia, MI
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^Are you using an HE bolt? If that's the case, dwell doesn't really matter because you're firing from a fixed amount of air. The dwell could be 12 seconds and you'd still use the same amount of air.
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06-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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#126
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Illinois
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let me guess, tomorrow...
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