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04-24-2012, 07:17 PM
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Virginia Tech Alumni
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Blacksburg/Richmond
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Do you have to use Flow Insert? and Dwell Question
So I just got a Dye NT 10, I have a kind of retarded question for all the NT guys.
I understand that you don't have to use the spacer inserts, but do you have to have the bolt flow insert? And if so, which bolt flow insert is the best to use for shooting brittle paint. I understand from some of the forum/manual, that the green tip is the best for brittle paint, but I only have the red and blue tips, so does anyone know which one would be better out of those?
Dwell: Okay, so the manual says default dwell is 6 MS, but when I have it set to 6 the bolt doesn't fully cycle. Is it normal to have to up the dwell one or two ms?
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04-24-2012, 07:36 PM
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ez
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chatsworth, CA
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dwell 9 blue flow insert with spacer body and 1 spacer ring
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04-25-2012, 01:55 PM
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#3
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angeles
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I set the reg to about 135, blue insert, dwell of 7, and the body spacer.
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04-25-2012, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Escondido, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xal
dwell 9 blue flow insert with spacer body and 1 spacer ring
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Wouldn't using the spacers make the pressure higher on the ball?... For the lowest pressure for what you have, no spacers or spacer body and blue insert since you dont have the green one.
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04-25-2012, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JUSLIVNx
Wouldn't using the spacers make the pressure higher on the ball?... For the lowest pressure for what you have, no spacers or spacer body and blue insert since you dont have the green one.
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you are correct
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04-25-2012, 03:59 PM
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#6
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
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i used to use dwell 7,reg 125 or so and a no spacer body.now with the nt11 bolt in it i use dwell of 8, green flow insert and spacer body or it wont shoot once the tank gets to 1k psi without a spacer body in it.
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04-25-2012, 04:01 PM
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ez
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chatsworth, CA
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I just remember before the nt11 came out the standard for the nt10 was blue insert with a spacer body and 1 ring because if it didnt have that it wouldn't shoot properly. Honestly I would say just send your gun in to billy wing so he can mod it for you and then it will be able to shoot anything
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04-25-2012, 04:07 PM
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Sacramento Point Blank
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Is it normal for the nt10 not shooting with the green insert unless it has a body spacer?
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04-25-2012, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NJ
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The NT10 needs the spacer body and at least one spacer to get optimal performance out of the gun. ****** Mike mentioned this in his video of the NT10.
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04-25-2012, 04:57 PM
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ez
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chatsworth, CA
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I never tried shooting it with the green insert and no back body because i never got an official green insert, i did however send my nt10 in to get bwing'd and when i got it back now i just use the insert he made with no spacers and it shoots amazingly
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04-25-2012, 05:28 PM
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Sacramento Point Blank
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xal
I never tried shooting it with the green insert and no back body because i never got an official green insert, i did however send my nt10 in to get bwing'd and when i got it back now i just use the insert he made with no spacers and it shoots amazingly
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Yea I'm about to send mines in. Mine has the nt11 internals except the manifold and it won't shoot under 310 Fps. It needs the body spacer.
Pressure is at 130.
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04-25-2012, 05:50 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angeles
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You get it to 300 without a spacer, then drop velocity with spacers.
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04-25-2012, 05:55 PM
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Sacramento Point Blank
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cybermaniac15
You get it to 300 without a spacer, then drop velocity with spacers.
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Thanx. I was shooting hot this past weekend cuz I didnt have a spacer on. What dwell would be best since I have the nt11 internals besides the manifold?
I have it at 7 now
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04-25-2012, 06:13 PM
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#14
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angeles
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I'd do 8 or 9 with the 11 internals. Try both.
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04-25-2012, 06:14 PM
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#15
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angeles
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Over a chrono that is.
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04-26-2012, 10:37 AM
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Virginia Tech Alumni
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Blacksburg/Richmond
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if you don't have any spacers, can you just use a cut piece of macroline wrapped around the stem to take up volume? or even wrapping some sort of tape around the stem?
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04-26-2012, 11:07 AM
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ez
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chatsworth, CA
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I've heard some people using macroline, but my gun is fine without anything so i don't need to do that
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04-26-2012, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Save yourself the headache. Get it BWing'd and all problems are solved.
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04-26-2012, 12:23 PM
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ez
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chatsworth, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProtoSkillz
Save yourself the headache. Get it BWing'd and all problems are solved.
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10-17-2012, 10:35 PM
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10-21-2012, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusdeano
if you don't have any spacers, can you just use a cut piece of macroline wrapped around the stem to take up volume? or even wrapping some sort of tape around the stem?
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Yes, you can use tape or anything that is fixed and wont float around.
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