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Old 04-15-2012, 08:44 PM #1
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Karni upgrades?

I am getting a Karnivor once again. Sold mine years ago and regretted it. My question is would it be worth it to get some qevs for it? Also, I found a Belsales Aluminum Evo Venturi Bolt...is it a worth while upgrade? Seems like I read that I really should only use delrin bolts. Thank you for your guidance.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:22 PM #2
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delrin is best.. stock bolt is great.. no need to upgrade right away
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:28 PM #3
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Keep the stock delrin bolt is really nice actually. QEVs would be good aswell.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:43 PM #4
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Thanks guys. I was just thinking a venturi face bolt was better. It has been many years since my last cocker. I will search for some qevs.
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Old 04-16-2012, 12:25 AM #5
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Karni's come with QEV's. If you are getting an older one they will be outside the RAM, if you are getting a newer one it will come with an MP4 ram and the QEVs will be built in.

Personally I wouldn't upgrade anything besides the trigger or maybe the board if it is an E1.

I currently own 2 but have owned a few more over time. Keep them as close to stock as possible.

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Old 04-16-2012, 08:18 AM #6
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Find someone to mid block it.
They are so sweet with a cut that follows the lines on the top tube. Then you can get rid of the ICS, and not have to deal with the back block flapping around.
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Find someone to mid block it.
They are so sweet with a cut that follows the lines on the top tube. Then you can get rid of the ICS, and not have to deal with the back block flapping around.
That is like defacing american currency....
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Ahhh yes...now I remember the built in qevs. Duh!!! Been too many guns ago since my original. This one already has an upgraded trigger and E2 board. Looks like I will just put my money into finishing my other projects
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That is like defacing american currency....
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Ahhh yes...now I remember the built in qevs. Duh!!! Been too many guns ago since my original. This one already has an upgraded trigger and E2 board. Looks like I will just put my money into finishing my other projects
Good choice! I have a few projects of my own lying around.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:48 PM #10
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That is like defacing american currency....
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IDK about that... Its a marker. a fairly common one. Despite it being a great setup, it still isnt a JOLE or a Merlin. One person may not like what you do to the marker you own, but when it belongs to you, make it your own.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:13 PM #11
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the look nice cut







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That blue one is what i wanted, before i ended up with the superstock.. I'm still thinking of swapping it for a kanri body.. but i like that my superstock isn't drilled.

Any other mods you make to a karni are gonna be the normal cocker choices. Ram, LPR, LPC?, Board, valve/hammer, ETC.
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I would also say cutting a Karni isn't that big of a deal there's a lot of them kicking around. If I were you I'd pick up a nice derlin trigger. I have a samurai on mine (a metal one) and it would be nice if it was a bit lighter so the magnet can pull it back with greater ease, allowing you to put a longer travel on it thus making it easier to walk.
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It looks like it already has the delrin Samurai type trigger. I might get another style just to see which I like better. Thank you for the input.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:16 PM #15
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Honestly, unless you were MQ2ing it, the karni is great stock.

I think it is best with a full AKALMP lower tube set, but I won't say it is yet.

I'm installing my aka kit as soon as I find the ****ing toolbox. Then I'll report back.
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CHeck this link for delrin triggers, i got a few and there awesome:

http://customcockers.com/forum/showt...elrin-Triggers
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:17 PM #17
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^I think one of their Samurai triggers is on it already. The wave type seems to fit me better though so I might look into one.
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other than that, a madman spring kit from compulsive, those are really nice if used correctly, but its not needed. I personally dont like the MP4s as ive had alot of grief with them, cause if one qev goes out the whole things shot, and you need a new ram, where as rams with external qev's you can just get a new qev. Something to ponder over.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:32 AM #19
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other than that, a madman spring kit from compulsive, those are really nice if used correctly, but its not needed. I personally dont like the MP4s as ive had alot of grief with them, cause if one qev goes out the whole things shot, and you need a new ram, where as rams with external qev's you can just get a new qev. Something to ponder over.
A Madman spring kit will not work. The Karnivor main spring is a little different because of the ICS.
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A Madman spring kit will not work. The Karnivor main spring is a little different because of the ICS.
True but it would still work. I have a set in mine and it works great. The valve springs are the same. Just requires more fine tuning.
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True but it would still work. I have a set in mine and it works great. The valve springs are the same. Just requires more fine tuning.
You just replace the valve spring then? What type of improvement do you see from that?
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