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Old 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM #22
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Call me crazy, but PRO is invite only is it not? You either bid in or get invited to play(meaning winning cup, etc). So no. Any team cannot play the PRO division at will.
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Old 03-18-2012, 04:25 PM #23
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Pro is invite only. A newbie to tournaments should do local tournaments and start in d4 and d5 tends to be taken as a joke. I suggest doing local 3 mans and saving your money. I suggest that you upgrade guns before joining the PSP.
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:34 PM #24
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I suggest that you upgrade guns before joining the PSP.
Why? A shocker will shoot fast enough and will be just as smooth as any gun around nowadays. I still have one and it's still an amazing shooter.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:49 PM #25
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Yeah your guns are fine.

Practice. Play paintball a lot.
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:17 PM #26
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the gun u have should be fine for beginer tourny. im just starting and im using a invert mini. no its not a 1000$ gun but skill > gun.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:26 AM #27
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Stick with D4/D5, with the guns you got now you'll be fine.

It'll give you the experience and practice that you need, you'll learn your teams weaknesses, and if you start doing well, bump up to D3.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:01 PM #28
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The only reason i ws asking is because i see some d4 teams with $700 guns.
I have a Vic and I play d4, that's like $600, there is a geo and an nt in my team too, and I see people all over using etek 3's and similar guns that play in my division
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:44 PM #29
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The only things you need to worry about for your marker is making sure you can shoot in the appropriate mode and ROF for the event, and that your marker is reliable.

I've seen plenty of mid-level guns at tournaments.
As long as it can adhere to the series/event rules and be reliable you're good.

Worry about spending the majority of your paintball budget on playing paintball.
Play against teams that are better than you. You'll get beat up a lot, but your skills improve at a much better rate than just playing amongst yourselves or lesser teams.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:09 PM #30
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This is a good example of why Infamous and XSV use Axes, because any gun that shoots 12.5 bps is just as good as any other
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:20 PM #31
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The only reason i ws asking is because i see some d4 teams with $700 guns.
Brand new those Shockers were $750 when they came out oh so long ago.

But as others have stated do some local tournaments, or watch some... you'll get a feel for how they go.
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:54 PM #32
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:52 PM #33
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This is a good example of why Infamous and XSV use Axes, because any gun that shoots 12.5 bps is just as good as any other
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:10 PM #34
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Why? A shocker will shoot fast enough and will be just as smooth as any gun around nowadays. I still have one and it's still an amazing shooter.

ive seen local d5 teams with spyders and blitz, the shocker beats both of them. the pros dont even need a thousand some dollar gun, but it sure helps.

the appa bassicly points you into the direction you should be performing at; you could be ranked at pro if you do 500 tourneys at d5; but obviously your not going to be playing nearly as well.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:13 PM #35
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:28 PM #36
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Ya you're definitely better off keeping what you have, atleast for now. The best part about what you've got is you know how to use it and know how to maintain it. Going out and spending $700+ on a new marker to enter a tourny and have it **** out on you and you have no idea how to fix it is extremely frustrating. I'd still use my Mag if I knew where it was -.-.

Besides markers, get your group and find the closest local tourny you can. Join the lowest division, see how you do. Everytime I've joined up with a new group we've always played atleast one small tourny before going crazy.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:43 PM #37
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:25 AM #38
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:40 AM #39
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This is a good example of why Infamous and XSV use Axes, because any gun that shoots 12.5 bps is just as good as any other
Really? I always thought it had something to do with those sponsorship deals they signed, and the fact that they are being PAID to shoot those guns.

Gun wise, don't get your knickers in a knot. You'll see all sort of guns at the local level, "pro level" stuff, "mid level", old, new, it'll all turn up at one time or another. As the others have said, so long as you feel you can rely on your marker, and it is capable of complying with any rules regarding ROF caps and/or ramping you'll be just fine. The Shocker you've got should serve you nicely for the time being so long as you take good care of it.

As you move up through the ranks, you're likely to see more of the "high-end" guns and fewer of the others, I think that speaks more to the players' preference than the capabilities of the markers.

For your team, just play some events. Regardless of what they are, practice, pay your money and go play them. Don't worry about trying to be "ready" for that first event, just go and play it. Chances are you're going to get rolled anyway, the experience is what matters. That one day at the tournament will tell you more about what you guys need to work on than a month worth of scrimmages. You'll understand the tempo of the games, how to read the field, scheduling, scoring, etc. etc. You're ability to practice effectively will multiply several fold b/c you won't think you need to work on Skill X or Skill Y any more, you'll know for a fact that the team did Skill Y pretty well, but couldn't execute Skill X when the chips were down.

After that first event is out of the way, you can really start working on playing well and trying to win.

As for the paying to play Pro thing, you used to be able to do that, I actually knew some guys who did. Team Godspeed had a big-money, non-industry sponsor (one of their fathers or brothers or whatever) and payed to play Pro division ball back in the early 2000's. Of course, they got absolutely destroyed at every event they played. Shortly after they disbanded, the leagues made the Pro Division invite only, something we jokingly called "The Godspeed Rule" because it ensured that teams that didn't deserve, or couldn't earn a Pro spot could no longer just pay their way into the Pro Division.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:47 PM #40
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Practice Practice Practice! Play as much as your pocket will let you. My team uses old milk jugs for precise shooting drills, snap drills work great for solo gun skills. Make sure your players know they positions like the back of their hands and that they know the other positions just as well. Because at a moments notice they may have to fill. I agree with everyone else as far as playing local tournaments to gain knowledge and skill. My first tournament was a joke i played so much worse than i usually do, because of nerves and such. Stick with it and you'll get better. Key thing to remember is play fair and dont cheat. haha
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:37 PM #41
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ive seen local d5 teams with spyders and blitz, the shocker beats both of them. the pros dont even need a thousand some dollar gun, but it sure helps.

the appa bassicly points you into the direction you should be performing at; you could be ranked at pro if you do 500 tourneys at d5; but obviously your not going to be playing nearly as well.
lol you obvioudly have no idea how appa works and yes D5 teams with spyders and blitz is not something rare because D5 is the lowest division besides some rare beginner/D6 divisions that mean nothing. Appa will only count 4 events so playing a million D5 events wont do jack ****. And pros shoot thousand dollar markers because they are reliable, smooth, accurate (more so that typical mid to low end markers) and efficient. Yes infamous and XSV shoot axe's but with upgrades that make it a $1000 marker...
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