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Old 04-08-2012, 11:58 PM #883
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Hex hole behind where safety is adjust the trigger pull length. It's like having set screws in slider.
hmm, there must not be one on the 05 version....the pull isnt very long though.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:02 AM #884
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love the body on that sto. it needs a slider imop.


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Thanks Yuik! I have an extra angry frame its just in my box of parts at Daves.

Itll be a nice slider one day haha :]

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hmm, there must not be one on the 05 version....the pull isnt very long though.
Yea I have the gen one. Gen two has the jewels and appeared on the 04 guns (trilogys, prostocks etc) then the 05 frame I have never touched.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:24 AM #885
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got my freestyle working. I actually like the bolt out back ones a lot. don't think i am going to sell this. efficiency blows though lol
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pretty sure the trilogies have the same style as the 05, they are just 1.5 finger trigger and not made as well. dont have the sear spring adjustment or dovetail is about the only difference i can find.

it also looks like the trilly frames were cast instead of milled....maybe they were powdercoated or something instead, but it doesnt look like it has the same clean/crisp/flat edges like the normal frames.
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:06 AM #887
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not the 05 trilogys. I bought a pro when they came out and it had a hinge with the sticker on it that looked like mine. The 05s did though they also came with sf frames.


Oh, well the trilogy pro came with a regular STO frame in 04 (like mine) the sport and competition had the craptastic half frame.

Then in 05 they all had the option of SF or the 05 hinge



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....i thought the trilogy didnt come out till like 07? just before kee bought them.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:39 AM #889
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not the 05 trilogys. I bought a pro when they came out and it had a hinge with the sticker on it that looked like mine. The 05s did though they also came with sf frames.


Oh, well the trilogy pro came with a regular STO frame in 04 (like mine) the sport and competition had the craptastic half frame.

Then in 05 they all had the option of SF or the 05 hinge



@Yuik post a vid
sadley i live in a 24 story high rise so i can't shoot like i used to in my videos in NJ (into the trees by the river).

Ill bring it to ncpa nationals and gets video there. This nox board has the worst user interface ever though
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and the eye logic is utter dog****
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sadley i live in a 24 story high rise so i can't shoot like i used to in my videos in NJ (into the trees by the river).

Ill bring it to ncpa nationals and gets video there. This nox board has the worst user interface ever though
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....i thought the trilogy didnt come out till like 07? just before kee bought them.
Wgp was almost dead by 07?
Wgp made the trilogies overseas after k2/ jt USA bought them in 2004.
Kee didn't buy them till 2010.

As far as models go I still have wgp catalogues !

In 2000:
Stock cocker
STO

2001:
Sto
Stock cocker
Sniper 2


2002:
Vertebrae
Worrlock
Sto
Black magic
Flatline cocker
This is also the year of red/ white / blue fades and wgp spyder type guns

2003:
Knightkast
Outkast
Vertebrae
Oracle
Karnivore
Very feed

K2 buys wgp


2004:
Knightkast
Outkast
Karnivore
Oracle
Prostock
Superstock (still mech)
Trilogy (sport, comp, pro)

2005:
Black magic
Superstock (sf frame)
Trilogies (sf frame/ tactical)
Karnivore left overs
Prostock
Tactical (it came and went before as well)
Crappy jt guns (worr machine, mg7, etc)

Then the sr and joles came out and that's all she wrote
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i've almost bought a freestyle a couple times, didn't know much about them though if they had an issue.

i've never shot a trilogy, i see them a lot for short money. i've been throwing around the idea of picking one up just for the heck of it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:34 PM #893
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Trilogy is merlin spec autococker made in china.

and the front block is integrated so no changing the three way.
Lpr and ram can be changed but some rams you have to sand the nut and lpr needs the adapter or the palmers trilogy specific reg.

Pros/ Tacts are nice (ergo reg, sto frame, delrin bolt, sledghammer, STO/ merlin type internals)
Comps are similiar but it has an alluminum bolt and 1 1/2 frame
Sports are garbage.

of course that is the 04 trilogys. after my trilogy I stopped buying wgp stuff (post K2)
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Hmmm... I still have to send you my half blocked trilogy of death to tinker with, don't I? PM me your info.
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Oh yea hehe
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Im pissed.

im not going into detail about why, but it has encouraged me to make a super autococker youtube channel of death.

There will be blood (not mine hopefully) be prepared!
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Im pissed.

im not going into detail about why, but it has encouraged me to make a super autococker youtube channel of death.

There will be blood (not mine hopefully) be prepared!
looking forward to it man post some videos in here when you do good luck.
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i've almost bought a freestyle a couple times, didn't know much about them though if they had an issue.

i've never shot a trilogy, i see them a lot for short money. i've been throwing around the idea of picking one up just for the heck of it.
freestyles arnt bad you can get most parts at the hardware store i would just get a bolt out back one because if you use radioshack lube they need to be lubed after every case. Im going to see how well hater sauce works.
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looking forward to it man post some videos in here when you do good luck.
will do.

First I will go through my own cockers.
Kapp classic
Kapp Reflex
Dye Reflex
Eclipse Autococker (2k1 undrilled mech)
Right feed evolution
STO
Vertebrae
Jackal RDL
Pump
Evo

Viking
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Then start going through some others.
as well as upgrades, versus, maintainence, etc.



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Eclipse Splash series with Dave (he is only missing the spyder)
Macdev Sonic
Hybrid Quest Pneumatics
Hybrid Rival
Works
CCM
Shocktech
Jack Withers
(maybe dirk gadsberry)
Race
ANS
belsales predator (again thanks to Dave)
Palmers
etc


They will be in depth taken apart, compared, discussed, history etc
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Cool


Wgp was almost dead by 07?
Wgp made the trilogies overseas after k2/ jt USA bought them in 2004.
Kee didn't buy them till 2010.

As far as models go I still have wgp catalogues !

In 2000:
Stock cocker
STO

2001:
Sto
Stock cocker (considered this it looked cool, but wanted a "machine gun" so i was split between the spyder amg and the raptor extreme , I figured out what guns to buy during 6th grade band class). Realized they discontinued the amg at the store and bought a spyder flash. Years laster i wish i bought the black mech cocker...
Sniper 2


2002:
Vertebrae
Worrlock
Sto
Black magic
Flatline cocker thought this was sick saw a green one on the wall of rex plex paintball in NJ. instead took my dads tippmann 98custom painted it green and grey and
This is also the year of red/ white / blue fades and wgp spyder type guns

2003:
Knightkast
Outkast
Vertebrae
Oracle saw this and it looked soo cool i was in love
Karnivore
Very feed

K2 buys wgp


2004:
Knightkast my dad bought me this, i wanted an emag, im so glad i got this instead
Outkast
Karnivore
Oracle
Prostock not sure why i got the knightkast over the ebladed prostock...
Superstock (still mech)
Trilogy (sport, comp, pro)

2005:
Black magic
Superstock (sf frame)
Trilogies (sf frame/ tactical)
Karnivore left overs bought a used karni best 400$ i ever spent still have that gun
Prostock
Tactical (it came and went before as well)
Crappy jt guns (worr machine, mg7, etc)

Then the sr and joles came out and that's all she wrote
good history man
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will do.

First I will go through my own cockers.
Kapp classic
Kapp Reflex
Dye Reflex
Eclipse Autococker (2k1 undrilled mech)
Right feed evolution
STO
Vertebrae
Jackal RDL
Pump
Evo

Viking
Eclipse mag



Then start going through some others.
as well as upgrades, versus, maintainence, etc.



Definately going to do one on:
Eclipse Splash series with Dave (he is only missing the spyder)
Macdev Sonic
Hybrid Quest Pneumatics
Hybrid Rival
Works
CCM
Shocktech
Jack Withers
(maybe dirk gadsberry)
Race
ANS
belsales predator (again thanks to Dave)
Palmers
etc


They will be in depth taken apart, compared, discussed, history etc
dont know alot about the last half besides palmers and shocktech (mostly because i used there parts on other guns first). will be enlightening
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