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Old 03-25-2012, 07:23 PM #1
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2 peice demon can?

just a thought, has anyone looked into making a 2 peice can and maybe a flat face bolt for the demon?

just saying, i would buy it and im sure im not the only one.

with all the orings inside the can it would make since to have easy access to change them out. its kinda a pain in the *** for me to feel around there with an oring pick.

just figured the luxe has theese parts, the bolt and can look to be pritty simular. sooo WHY NOT?
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:56 AM #2
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Talk to Pooty about it. I am sure he could develop something if there's enough interest in it...
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:29 PM #3
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Would be a nice idea. You really shouldn't need to be in there changing the oring all that often though. If it's not leaking, leave it alone
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:25 PM #4
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well i feel like changing the orings is about the only thing i can think to do.

i lube it well with dow 55, and am consistantly getting bolt stick for the first shot. after that it shoots fine.

i have a polished bolt, idk if that has anything to do with it.

i havnt tried the vasoline thory yet but i gess its worth a try.

But id still like to see a bolt and can upgrade for the demon, i cant be the only one out there who feels this way...
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:07 AM #5
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well i feel like changing the orings is about the only thing i can think to do.

i lube it well with dow 55, and am consistantly getting bolt stick for the first shot. after that it shoots fine.

i have a polished bolt, idk if that has anything to do with it.

i havnt tried the vasoline thory yet but i gess its worth a try.

But id still like to see a bolt and can upgrade for the demon, i cant be the only one out there who feels this way...
if your having bolt stick, there is a little trick i did and it eliminated it. I had perfect orings in my demon, so i took them all out and set them aside and put others in to determine what orings affect what in the bolt system. Something i found, if you use a buna oring in the third inner can spot, your fsdo will go away. And i didn't use a special oring, just one from oring monkey from my luxe kit. If this oring os to snug, you will get bolt stick. for all the other inner can orings, i use those clear white ones. Also, marmalade for lube
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:33 AM #6
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hmmmm i thought the 3rd can should be polly?

its worth a try, ill give it a shot
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:48 AM #7
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I also noticed you said you have a polished bolt. The polished bolts usually have a smaller ID than the stock bolt. That could be causing you a smaller leak so maybe using the buna would work out better. You may just need a tighter fit in there, rather than a looser one. Either way it's worth a shot.

Polished bolts also don't hold lube as well as the stock ones so you will have to really lube it up every time you play. I think some people using polished bolts on spools prefer to just use a lite coating of oil. Or at least a really thin lubricant. I can't say if that will be better or worse. You can try the vaseline trick as well.

Still others are neglecting the stock dwell setting and bumping up to 18ms with great results. Remember not all noids are going to function exactly the same. You may simply need more dwell time and possibly more FSDO time added to your settings.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:28 PM #8
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:41 AM #9
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^^^

i hope so, id buy it in a heartbeat
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:47 PM #10
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i wish they could make a new bolt...there is no cushion on this one, just straight metal on the ball, cant be good lol
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My pre-Dye Matrix with no eyes put a metal bolt straight on the ball. Can't recall it ever chopping at semi 17-20bps.

If the gun is tuned right and the barrel to paint match is right you shouldn't worry about an all metal bolt.
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i wish they could make a new bolt...there is no cushion on this one, just straight metal on the ball, cant be good lol
all dye pre 09 were all metals, luxes are all metal, shockers are all metals and many others, I dont see where all those guns failed to shoot paintball with all metal bolt.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:22 PM #13
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The amount of force applied to the ball by the front of the bolt is minimal. There is no need to change it.
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