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Old 02-27-2012, 06:36 PM #1
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SAR12 - new bolt action paintball marker

From the guys at ProPB:

Today we received a photograph and video link to a new paintball gun that will be unveiled shortly. The new paintball gun is known officially as the SAR12.

Here is a photo the SAR12 paintball gun, exclusive to ProPaintball:


New Paintball Gun: SAR12 Sniper
We do know that prototypes of this new paintball gun exist (as seen above). Further, the company producing these paintball guns is known as CARMATECH Engineering. The magazine is removable, the stock is adjustable, and we anticipate that FIRST STRIKE Paintball Rounds will be used for enhanced range and accuracy.

A bit of google research pulled up this gem of a video;

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Old 02-27-2012, 09:39 PM #2
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what powers it in "bolt action mode"?
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:40 PM #3
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Could it be? a paintball sniper for REALZ?
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:50 PM #4
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Holy crap that's awesome! That could very well be a game changer for scenario play. I can't imagine why it has taken this long to come up with this.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:51 PM #5
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that looks really well designed. probably going to be VERY costly due to low production volume though.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:54 PM #6
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about time theres a bolt action thats not just a custom done doohickey from someone bored. If price is right ill definatly buy. I hope its not FS only though, cant use them at my field and they are hella expensive.
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That's actually pretty damn cool.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:56 PM #8
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about time theres a bolt action thats not just a custom done doohickey from someone bored. If price is right ill definatly buy. I hope its not FS only though, cant use them at my field and they are hella expensive.

why can't you use them?
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why can't you use them?
"field paint only"

If I could mod this with a new upper reciever to fire .338 Lapua, ill definatly buy

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what powers it in "bolt action mode"?
Whole powertube assembly is 1 whole unit. Guessing the bolt lever would more or less act like a mechanical spool valve. As you would be opening up the can when opening breach, then when u close it's sealing off the air while markers at rest/closed position. Just my guess.
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Got some answers out of them on their Youtube page. They posted this in response.


A digital demonstration that shows the capabilities of Carmatech Engineering's new product. A .68 caliber paintball, First Strike enabled precision bolt action rifle that will be introduced at the 2012 International Paintball Expo in Washington DC. This project in its current form is the culmination of over two years of engineering, design, and analysis. Patent pending technology allow for bolt action to semi auto change over, and reversible magazine design. This design also allows for future change over to other chassis systems that will be released at later dates.

Features not noted in video
Magazine feed or hopper feed
Twelve (12) round magazine

Precision Rifle Specifications
20 inch barrel with Autococker threads
Free floating extended foregrip
Fully adjustable buttstock

CQB Rifle Specifications
CQB rifle 16 inch barrel with Autococker threads
Free floating compact foregrip
Adjustable buttstock with integrated air tank mounting

Accessories
1) Remote line extension. (Allows for remote mounting of the asa to the 1913 Mil Rail located on the bottom of both buttstocks.)
2) Extended Magazines (Increased capacity for the CQB operators)
1913 Mil Rails for mounting to the foregrip
3) Chassis systems
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about time theres a bolt action thats not just a custom done doohickey from someone bored. If price is right ill definatly buy. I hope its not FS only though, cant use them at my field and they are hella expensive.
I wouldn't play with this marker with anything less than FS rounds. There would be little point otherwise IMHO.

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why can't you use them?
Some fields are concerned that FS rounds will damage mask lenses and they hurt like hell if you engage someone less than 50 feet away. FS rounds are more aerodynamic and don't lose their speed as fast as regular paintballs do. I have barrel fed first strike rounds with my Geo and made some pretty long shots with 'em.

Fields could make mandatory lower FPS limits for FS guns. A FS round shooting 250-260 fps will still travel further than a regular paintball and not leave a huge bruise on impact.

I would SO put a 3X crossbow scope on that thing and make a ghillie suit.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:19 PM #13
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I wouldn't play with this marker with anything less than FS rounds. There would be little point otherwise IMHO.
Im more or less looking for something unique and that I can use for our monthly open play rec day. It consists mostly of rental users and first timers. It sucks going out with my high ends, and everyone see me with 2k worth of gear on and either fearing me ,or wanting me to play for them. Something like this would make me stand out less, and still manage to have alot of fun using it.
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:21 PM #14
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:54 PM #15
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Some fields are concerned that FS rounds will damage mask lenses and they hurt like hell if you engage someone less than 50 feet away. FS rounds are more aerodynamic and don't lose their speed as fast as regular paintballs do.
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Im aware of what they are, but I hadn't heard that some fields are concerned about them damaging lenses. My experience with them has been that they are made of the same material as regular paintballs with a tail, to encourage better flight tracking. I just don't see why this ball traveling at 285 (at point of impact) FPS is supposed to do more damage to a lens than a standard one traveling 285 FPS(at point of impact)

Also didn't think about FPO.
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Im aware of what they are, but I hadn't heard that some fields are concerned about them damaging lenses. My experience with them has been that they are made of the same material as regular paintballs with a tail, to encourage better flight tracking. I just don't see why this ball traveling at 285 (at point of impact) FPS is supposed to do more damage to a lens than a standard one traveling 285 FPS(at point of impact)

Also didn't think about FPO.
Regular paintballs aren't traveling 285 FPS at point of impact though. His point was that FS rounds retain velocity better at range than standard paintballs.
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i mean, whe you switch it to semi there is a tank in the stock, there is no tank when bolt action
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