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Old 02-23-2012, 02:29 PM #1
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Need help with tank/gun

ok i need your help. I have a diablo wrath paintball marker. It says in the manual the pressure should be between 200-250. I have this tank http://www.procapsdirect.com/p-159-d...83000-psi.aspx

Will I be fine to just hook it up and adjust the gun reg settings???? maybe it will get the pressure low enough???
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:51 PM #2
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your tank is outputting around 800 psi right now. I would recommend buying the low pressure kit or your tank, that will knock your tank down to 450 psi output. the page you have linked mentions their low pressure spring pack, sounds like that's what you want.

It may work on HP (800 psi) but I'm not sure.
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the pressure coming out of the regulator will be fine with whatever tank you use.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:01 PM #4
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the 200 to 250psi is the HPR pressure not the tank pressure. You are fine with that tank
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Ok thanks guys i thought it was the HPR pressure. So basically for setting that up i have to adjust the reg to get the guage on the gun to 250 psi. Then adjust the velocity until i reach around 280-290 fps. right????
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Ok thanks guys i thought it was the HPR pressure. So basically for setting that up i have to adjust the reg to get the guage on the gun to 250 psi. Then adjust the velocity until i reach around 280-290 fps. right????
The HPR controls the FPS. So it may not be 250psi exactly.
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The HPR controls the FPS. So it may not be 250psi exactly.
well the Hpr is on the bottom of the reg, and the velocity adjuster is where the ram air chamber is on like a spyder.
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well the Hpr is on the bottom of the reg, and the velocity adjuster is where the ram air chamber is on like a spyder.
There is no velocity on the back...


Not mine, just a random google pic.


Might suggest you do some reading about your gun before doing to much to it...
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...9#post14783079
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:31 PM #9
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There is no velocity on the back...


Not mine, just a random google pic.


Might suggest you do some reading about your gun before doing to much to it...
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...9#post14783079
I know the velocity adjuster is where the ram air is in the front of a spyder
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:34 PM #10
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I know the velocity adjuster is where the ram air is in the front of a spyder
nope. the velocity is controlled by the pressure being output by the high pressure reg, which is adjusted on the bottom (it is important to note that the reg in the picture is not the stock reg, that is an evil detonator reg). for the stock reg, turn the screw on the bottom all the way OUT to cut off all air, and then turn it IN in small increments to increase the velocity to whatever you want.

you may be referring to the lpr, which is the black regulator running parellel to the barrel. that should not be adjusted to adjust velocity. both the hpr and lpr are regulators, but adjust the hpr for velocity change. good luck.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:41 PM #11
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nope. the velocity is controlled by the pressure being output by the high pressure reg, which is adjusted on the bottom (it is important to not that the reg in the picture is not the stock reg, that is an evil detonator reg). for the stock reg, turn the screw on the bottom all the way OUT to cut off all air, and then turn it IN in small increments to increase the velocity to whatever you want.

you may be referring to the lpr, which is the black regulator running parellel to the barrel. that should not be adjusted to adjust velocity. both the hpr and lpr are regulators, but adjust the hpr for velocity change. good luck.
Exactly.

You should really refer to the link I listed above, and read over the owners manual as it seems you do not have a understanding on how this marker works..
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DONT TOUCH IT! changing it wont really change your efficiency, and chances are a gun like that might not accept the lower pressure, if you want to experiment with it you can, but its not worth it
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:42 PM #13
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the 200 to 250psi is the HPR pressure not the tank pressure. You are fine with that tank
That about sums it up
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:49 PM #14
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DONT TOUCH IT! changing it wont really change your efficiency, and chances are a gun like that might not accept the lower pressure, if you want to experiment with it you can, but its not worth it
this gun is made for low pressure and dont touch it lol im not a total paintball noob. and what should i do with the lpr??? leave it or what???its screwed in all the way.
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Yes, LP should be better for your gun. Is it mandatory? No.

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Your gun will be more consistent when shooting, and may seem quieter/smoother when shooting. Efficiency may increase, but not exponentially or anything like that.

Just get some allen keys, some gun oil and have a day with the gun. Take it apart, inspect it, learn how it works, put it back together, then do all the chrono-ing and tuning necessary.
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this gun is made for low pressure and dont touch it lol im not a total paintball noob. and what should i do with the lpr??? leave it or what???its screwed in all the way.
You should read on how to setup your gun.

Follow the link I posted earlier...
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i have the manual in my hands read through it a million times...not very informitable
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You can leave the tank in hp, and the lpr will cycle it. I don't know of many guns needing lp to start besides angels, although some claim its better if your tank starts at lp if it can, I haven't found it to be true yet
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You can leave the tank in hp, and the lpr will cycle it. I don't know of many guns needing lp to start besides angels, although some claim its better if your tank starts at lp if it can, I haven't found it to be true yet
the benefits of an lp tank have been shown pretty consistently. Improved efficiency, less stress on the hpr, less drop off, quieter.....see yelosno and gamer565's posts for the correct answers about what you should be doing.
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that tank will work fine
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:46 AM #21
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That thread and links should answer just about every question you have... I use the method mentioned in the link to set my velocity, back out LPR to flush, and HPR all the way out.

Gas up marker and turn HPR in till gauge reads ~250psi.

Turn in LPR 1/4 turn at a time till shooting 280fps.

From now on, adjust velocity with HPR. This should give you good efficiency and be gentle on paint.
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