[FilipanicBaller]

I'm probably wrong, but having a dwell at 9 would mean you would have to amp your pressure pretty good, right? Should you worry about having your input pressure so high that it may mess up other things on the bold. 9 just seems way way low.

[SmartWorrPartsPlayer]

9ms of Dwell is very low for any DM, and should not be operating at such a low setting.

[M98custom1212]

Originally Posted by ChadTBD

Also especially in the cold run the lpr 5 full turns from all the way in and you will never run into any of these problems. Thats how all of damage including
myself have always run our dms.

yea that because your running a lpr pressure about 90psi.. when stock is 75psi

Originally Posted by ChadTBD

Also keep the dwell at stock you should never need to adjust your dwell.

if you want a smoother gun then you would use a higher dwell

[SmartWorrPartsPlayer]

Originally Posted by M98custom1212

yea that because your running a lpr pressure about 90psi.. when stock is 75psi



if you want a smoother gun then you would use a higher dwell

Correct. As you raise your Dwell, indeed that you are using a higher amount of air than you would at 18ms.

As a standard stock DM Operating at 145psi @ HPR and 75psi @ LPR. Dwell setting of 21ms allows you to lower both your HPR @ 130psi(Avg) and LPR @ 55psi(Avg) To which in results a smoother shooting and operating DM.

[TherealInsomniac]

Originally Posted by M98custom1212

You will get better efficiency and if you have well broken in dm or modded one, your just wasting air with a higher dwell.. Please, dont tell you are one of that "stock" is the only thing works people.

Also, some people dont care about smoothness

Not at all. Im not a "stock or nothing type".however I do recognize that stock is stock for a reason. Its general setting meant to work decent on any of that gun. I also recognize that aftermarket doesn't mean better.
When I go to set my guns.Im running a higher dwell because. I set my lpr, then get the hpr to around 260. I then up the dwell until I no longer see a gain in velocity over a chrono. I add one. finish out the hpr to 295. Nearly every matrix Ive set with that method has been 21. My 10 went to 22 in the winter.

I got 9 pods and a hopper on my 9. before it sold, and the same with my IM9. those two guns carried me through 3 full seasons playing in two national leagues. must have shot millions of balls each. Id call that well broken in.

When Id reset the gun's pneumatics 3-4 times a season (to coincide with major weather changes), the dwell still sat at 20/21.

If Im not a person to care about smoothness, why the eff would I be shooting a matrix? The biggest selling point to these guns is the way they shoot.

What I mean is a dwell of 9ms is half the time recommended. that means that the pressure needed to compensate for that is quite substantial. I won't go as far to say its a linear relationship, I don't know the math well enough.. I barely passed my fluid dynamics class.
lets list some potential negatives..Higher LPR. so the bolt is slamming into the paint harder, risking more breakage. and the bumpers hit the can harder, which wears out the orings faster. Also the physical force of the bolt hitting things will be causing some recoil.The HPR is higher too, so the sound signature is increased. The air is accelerating the ball much faster again risking breakage. Faster air will also blow your lube down the barrel faster as well...And that whole Newtons 3rd law thing? with a faster acceleration, the opposing force must also be greater, IE more recoil...

the negative to running a dwell longer for the same work done, is what? 1 less pod per 4500? a battery that dies a day sooner?