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Old 02-16-2012, 01:39 PM #1
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G3 TechT bolt engine Kick!

I recently put a brand new Rampage board and TechT Bolt engine into my g3. I shot it for the first time today and it seems as though it kicked more than stock. I was shooting around 280 and got the dwell down to 10. Could the kick be due to the bolt not being broke in yet???
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:48 PM #2
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have you used a chrono since you installed it to make sure its down to 280..
i have seen G3's and G4's take a up to a 40fps gain when these bolts are installed. until they are turned down to the proper speeds they will feel like the stock bolt..
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:06 PM #3
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Like I said in the OP I was shooting 280.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:13 PM #4
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That isn't normal, even for a brand new TechT Bolt engine. After installing and going over the chrono I notice significantly lower sound signature, less kick, and more efficiency.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:02 PM #5
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If you're shooting at 280 fps at the chrono AFTER you installed the TechT engine, and your SOLENOID dwell has been lowered down to 10, then your marker should be buttery smooth.

Try lowering your solenoid dwell even more, and see how it shoots.

Just out of curiosity, what was the outside temperature when you were shooting it?
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:14 PM #6
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The Temp was about 50 today. I Didn't think this was buttery smooth at all. Mayb a lower dwell might be needed
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:27 PM #7
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Maybe I should just use the tune assist on the board to get the dwell and Bolt return Delay just right.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:14 PM #8
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You could use the tune assist.

But in this case, I think you would be better off if you lowered your solenoid dwell to 9, and shoot your marker over the chrono to check consistency. If it shoots consistent at 9, lower it to 8, and see how consistent it is at the chrono. Keep doing that until it's inconsistent at the chrono, and then raise it back up by 1.

Try that, and tell us what you think. I've heard of people lowering their solenoid dwell to 6 and 7 with the bolt engine in their G3.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:08 PM #9
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Alright ill try. I've heard some people say to run a case or 2 through it at 12ms then lower it. Would that matter. Also I noticed that the gun has absolutely no kick without paint in it. Put a ball in the breech and it has some kick. That makes no sense at all
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:44 AM #10
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That makes perfect sense. When you dry fire, there's nothing coming out the barrel, so there's no backwards force other than the vibration from the bolt. When you do shoot paint, there is an equal and opposite reaction from pushing the paintball out the barrel, which is what we feel as "kick" in a paintball gun. The pressure, volume and speed at which the air is released plays a role in what the kick feels like, but without the paintball, the air travels unhindered out the barrel without needing to push backwards on the gun.

As for why it feels more kicky than with a stock bolt, did you shoot it at 300 FPS with the stock bolt? Maybe you just never really experienced what a G3 felt like normally.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:50 AM #11
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Yeah after that posted that, I realized it does make sense. Yeah I regularly ran my stock G3 at 300. Maybe I just haven't ever really payed attention to it.
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Just got to thinking. Could this be due to mayb the lube I'm using? I'm using Slick Honey. Mayb the o rings?
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Just got to thinking. Could this be due to mayb the lube I'm using? I'm using Slick Honey. Mayb the o rings?
It could quite possibly be the orings. the lube shouldn't be making that much of a fuss for you.

When I got my TechT bolt for my Rev-I (very similar to the G series bolts) the front oring on my bolt was to thick width wise. It was dragging down my breach and actually shredding from the force. Go ahead and pull the bolt out and take note if its hard to pull out or feels to snug. Then pull it out all the way and inspect all of the orings on the bolt and see if there is any wear on any of them.
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