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Old 01-25-2012, 06:57 PM #1
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Need some drill/ceremony help.....

Nothing urgent, just trying to either re-confirm what I believe to be true, or get solid info that I'm wrong. I'm wanting to try and clear up/correct some people, but I need to make sure I'm right before doing so.

I'm in the Police Academy and we don't do much drill, but what we do is ugly and I'm hoping to help clean it up a little. But I'm trying to remember 5+ years back, so it's sketchy at best.

I have been trying to search, but I'm finding a ton of info I don't need to filter through and not really getting what I'm hoping for. Lots of how to do things, but not as much what not to do.

1st is an easy one.
* As a platoon leader do you give the command "order arms" (ready 2) while still saluting?
I recall all orders must be given from attention.

2nd is a little tougher.
* In a counter column movement who "makes a u-turn" and who finishes on the outside?
As I remember it 2nd squad u-turns and 4th squad goes to the outside, but the 1 diagram I could find had 3rd u-turning and 1st on the outside.

3rd part B of #2.
* While executing the counter column does the platoon leader simply "to the rear", or does he follow around to the far side so once completed he is on the left side?
I remember all orders must be given from the left side. (with exception to a second to the rear)

4th
*After executing a "to the rear" can you do anything other than a 2nd to the rear?
I can't remember if you can do any facing/turning movements, or even a halt. I think you can only "to the rear" again, but I found limited info.

Thanks for any help.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:41 PM #2
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If you're doing a color guard, the head guy has a rifle... so he salutes until the order to drop the salute is given.

If you are doing honor guard, the HMFIC drops his salute and then orders the peanut gallery to drop theirs.

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Counter column? I'm drawing a blank as to what that is.

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My experience with drill on the grinder was... a decade ago. I remember none of it except fools only using "1, 2, 3, 4" as marching cadence, and hating every second of it.


Silent marching looks more professional. Requires rehearsal, and briefing, but ends up looking better.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:43 PM #3
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this is just me trying to remember being PG back in basic lol

im pretty sure you drop your salute first

I do believe the 1st squad will be on the outside, and the leader follows them around. If you didnt follow them around, youd be on the wrong side of the formation.

idk what a "to the rear" is, unless you mean rear step or whatever the **** its called when the formation takes a 180, still being in the same squad ie 1234, whereas counter column ****s the order up. IF thats what youre talking about...a rear step can only be followed by another rear step because youd be on the wrong side of the formation.
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1st question, yes you do.

2,3 idk wtf youre talking about.

4 Yes you have to give another to the rear before anything else.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:27 PM #5
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Yes "To the rear" is basically an about face while marching, just a 180* turn around.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:49 PM #6
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1st is an easy one.
* As a platoon leader do you give the command "order arms" (ready 2) while still saluting?
I recall all orders must be given from attention.

All commands will be given from attention. You drop your salute, about face, give the prepatory command of 'order' followed by the command of execution, 'arms'. Knaw mean?


2nd is a little tougher.
* In a counter column movement who "makes a u-turn" and who finishes on the outside?
As I remember it 2nd squad u-turns and 4th squad goes to the outside, but the 1 diagram I could find had 3rd u-turning and 1st on the outside.



We always ****ed these up. They just manage to work.
3rd part B of #2.
* While executing the counter column does the platoon leader simply "to the rear", or does he follow around to the far side so once completed he is on the left side?
I remember all orders must be given from the left side. (with exception to a second to the rear)

The leader continues around. Just follow the 1st sqd.

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*After executing a "to the rear" can you do anything other than a 2nd to the rear?
I can't remember if you can do any facing/turning movements, or even a halt. I think you can only "to the rear" again, but I found limited info.

It's 'Rear, March', prepatory command will be given on the left foot which is then followed by the command of execution on the left as well which will be followed by a right turn. Remember, you lead the formation from the left side, so 1 rear march should, be followed by another as to make sure you're on the right(left) side.
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1st question, yes you do.

2,3 idk wtf youre talking about.

4 Yes you have to give another to the rear before anything else.
Move along, this is for Enlisted types...
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I was enlisted for almost 5 years queerbait
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You gave that right up when you went to the Dark Side.

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I want to say that rear march is called on the right foot, but I haven't done drill and ceremonies in about a year and a half. ****, I'm less than six months from ditching my butter bars
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I want to say that rear march is called on the right foot, but I haven't done drill and ceremonies in about a year and a half. ****, I'm less than six months from ditching my butter bars
Yea, I might have that **** backwards.
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The preparatory command Rear of Rear, MARCH, is given as the right foot strikes the marching surface, the command of execution MARCH of Rear, MARCH, is given the next time the right foot strikes the marching surface.

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^^ Agreed, Command is on the right foot for Rear March.
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Yea Yea, it's been awhile and I didn't bother looking it up. It sounded good in my head though.
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Most commands: mark time, double time, halt are all on the left so its understandable.

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