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Old 11-28-2011, 03:12 AM #1
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Military Shipping Paintball Guns to Germany?

Hey guys,

Dont cut my throat too deep if this has been posted before, which Im sure it has been but i sure as hell cant find it.

I recently PCS'ed to Spangdahlem AB, Germany and all my pb gear is in military storage at my last base with all my house hold goods. None of my stuff is being shipped out here until early Feb 2012 so this isnt a pressing matter, but when my stuff does get shipped is there any chance of problems arising with my Ego 09 with customs?

Ive read threads about guns being detained by customs because they dont have the F-in-the-pentagon mark but im not sure if my Ego does or not. During my in-process brief we had a customs official tell us that paintball guns are considered fire arms but i didnt have time to talk with him in dept. And on the other hand ive read a few articles/threads from other military folk saying you can get certain exceptions and/or people shipping their gun with their house hold goods with no problems.

Like I said, ive read both sides of the story and im still not 100% on this so i thought Id run it through you guys and get your experience and opinions with this issue before I go sit down at the local customs office.



PS - Where the hell are the decent spots near Spang to play at? Every person I ask that say they play paintball gives me the "deer in the headlights" look when I ask about a spot that isnt woods ball or has me ducking behind a shipping crate


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Old 11-28-2011, 12:23 PM #2
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Mine came over in my household goods without a problem. I'm not sure what the german laws are that govern them but they only got a field (the shipping container/ junked car type) when I was leaving that post so I never got to do anything with it other than shoot at pigeons.

My guess is that it will show up just fine.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:24 PM #3
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Hey guys,

Dont cut my throat too deep if this has been posted before, which Im sure it has been but i sure as hell cant find it.

I recently PCS'ed to Spangdahlem AB, Germany and all my pb gear is in military storage at my last base with all my house hold goods. None of my stuff is being shipped out here until early Feb 2012 so this isnt a pressing matter, but when my stuff does get shipped is there any chance of problems arising with my Ego 09 with customs?

Ive read threads about guns being detained by customs because they dont have the F-in-the-pentagon mark but im not sure if my Ego does or not. During my in-process brief we had a customs official tell us that paintball guns are considered fire arms but i didnt have time to talk with him in dept. And on the other hand ive read a few articles/threads from other military folk saying you can get certain exceptions and/or people shipping their gun with their house hold goods with no problems.

Like I said, ive read both sides of the story and im still not 100% on this so i thought Id run it through you guys and get your experience and opinions with this issue before I go sit down at the local customs office.



PS - Where the hell are the decent spots near Spang to play at? Every person I ask that say they play paintball gives me the "deer in the headlights" look when I ask about a spot that isnt woods ball or has me ducking behind a shipping crate


Thanks!
Negative, don't even try it. Germany doesn't allow imports of paintwars guns, even if they're the same thing you can buy there. They have to be tested by the German government to be possessed there.

Don't do it. They'll fine the **** out of you. It's not worth it.

Edit: Really Kida? A buddy of mine got in a cluster**** of trouble with the German government. They were trying to charge him with the importation of illegal weapons and a bunch of other ****.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:30 PM #4
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Mine got packed up with the rest of my **** and arrived just fine... then I sold it form over there online and mailed it back to the states through the APO. I never had any issues.... that being said if someone stands to face legal troubles/ serious fines over it I wouldn't suggest it.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:31 PM #5
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Mine got packed up with the rest of my **** and arrived just fine... then I sold it form over there online and mailed it back to the states through the APO. I never had any issues.... that being said if someone stands to face legal troubles/ serious fines over it I wouldn't suggest it.
According to the German government you're an Arms dealer. ****ing terrorist.
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:08 PM #6
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If I'm an arms dealer I'm going to need to get out of this country in something more classy than an MRAP... where's all my cash money $$$?
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:13 PM #7
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If I'm an arms dealer I'm going to need to get out of this country in something more classy than an MRAP... where's all my cash money $$$?
Well if we hadnt destroyed Saddams car collection...
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Old 11-28-2011, 01:33 PM #8
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According to the German government you're an Arms dealer. ****ing terrorist.
Well ****, I'd do it just for the title, would make more for a nice pick up line. Hello, I'm mike, an International Arms Dealer, wanna ****?
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:25 PM #9
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I saw on guns for sale at the Ramstein PX when I was there a few months ago, I think there are rof restrictions as they were all semi auto noob cadillacs
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:02 PM #10
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i live in germany right near ramstein. i play all the time with my EGO that i brought over in my check on luggage. all i had to do is get the german >68cal stamp and i was good. i have been playing allover germany for years with it.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:40 AM #11
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im at Ramstein right now and mine came without a problem and im not arms dealer
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:28 AM #12
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im at Ramstein right now and mine came without a problem and im not arms dealer
Its illegal though.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:15 PM #13
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so is cocaine but you have to get caught to make it illegal

point is unless you plan on playing gay euro league you will be playing on base because you need a F stamp and that makes your gun useless back in the real paintball world minus PALS league.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:45 AM #14
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you may ship your Pball Marker. but it will be up to your chain of command to tell you whether or not you have to store it in an arms room.....that is if you live in the barracks. but i have housing...so i just keep it in my basement.
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