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Old 01-03-2012, 02:52 AM #85
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:07 AM #86
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Ok lesson learned. Don't **** with the intel guy.

Seriously though what duffek said
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:17 AM #87
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Ok lesson learned. Don't **** with the intel guy.
Naah... that took 10 minutes.
If I was serious about it, I'd try to look up his grandfather's name through obituaries for that timeline matched with his area code, cross reference that with the VA, and.... yeah, I'd have his name, next of kin, addresses, phone numbers, etc.... and the record of his employment at places in his area code would be easy enough to track, if I wanted to go that route.

Then **** his computer up, and steal passwords.
Then steal some mail and other stuff.
Then steal his identity.

Then ruin his life in a ****ed up way, ending with his name on a police warrant, and a swat team coming through the door. How ironic would that be, considering this thread?


....but you know... that would take effort on my part, and he hasn't pissed me off enough to do something like that to him.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:38 AM #88
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You mean to tell me you arn't? Your brainwashed to crave, expect, and embrace death. Don't tell me your not, because that simply isn't true. Especially infantry and the like. If you were not mindless you guys would not follow unconstitutional orders. Yet you still do it. If you did your research before joining up you would know America is owned by the big banks and corporations. They just use the military to accomplish its tasks, and its been that way all through out history

The 5% im speaking of is the people. Think 1776. Thats 15+million people, and you guys think your really going to be able to keep it contained? 16 million+ guns were sold in 2011 alone. It cracks me up that you guys really think your going to be in charge if and when martial law breaks out, but then again our congress is already saying America is a battlefield. But thats what the bankers want. Dont tell me it isn't going to happen, because one we are literally doing exactly what germany did to the letter, and two you guys have already done it several times, and you did it with no hesitation.


I suppose you didn't see the government documents outlining military action and protocols for waging war on the American people did you? Clearly marking citizens as red enemy, and blue as friendly military. So go tell that to the government.

for you vets the government already has written official documented plans for how to go out and kill vets specifically during civil unrest.
I see that you've gone through basic training, shipped out for multiple tours, had a successful run as a politician after getting out of the armed forces, then took high-powered executive position in the banking industry.

However, that's not what happened, so let's move on to the obvious. You're just another kid that thinks he knows "the truth" after watching a few videos designed to incite specific reactions from the inexperienced. You did not make this thread to hear what anyone had to say - you did it because you wanted to spread the fear that has been planted in your head by people that are smarter than you. The way you describe our soldiers makes it painfully obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and you're just regurgitating the ideas that others have forced upon you because you couldn't think for yourself. Soldiers are not bumbling idiots. They are real people like you and me that made a decision to serve our country.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Quit reading conspiracy theories and political bull****. Get yourself an education.
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The best post I have ever read.
There is one thing.... I know why he has changed his mind and spit on his grandfathers grave. He has no real sense of "self", he's simply trying to "belong". So he found some friends with some ideas and latched on... just like he has done for as long as he can remember.
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and im cool with you taking buck to your face through a door as you try and collect guns.
How he imagines it going...

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Breaching on 4 ... Bangs then gas ... Weapons free.
How it would really happen.

As stated before there are homeland agencies in place for these scenarios, if the military is being called in then it is beyond the point of being nice about it. I would state if you dont like it, move to another country you would feel better suited for your needs. Good luck with that.

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You know, guys... we could turn this into a serious thread.

The fear of Uncle Sam getting a wild hair up his *** and doing something really stupid domestically is real. There is also a real fear of Uncle Sam using the military as a police force of sorts, just ask any southerner old enough to have had a relative living during the reconstruction days after the civil war (it wasn't THAT long ago). Uncle Sam has recently said it was cool to blow up people that were US citizens without a trail, among other ****ed up things (before you say anything about that, OBL had a trial so STFU). If we don't question our government in everything it does, who will? I'd rather us sane non-wearers of tin-foil hats do it than the crack pots, but even a broken clock is right twice a day... if you can feel me.


For ****s and giggles, I have a few documentaries I would like to recommend to those willing to learn a little something about the US Constitution, the founding, the founding fathers, and maybe a few other things. PM only, though. No crazy conspiracy ****, these are straight up historical documentaries.
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You know, guys... we could turn this into a serious thread.

The fear of Uncle Sam getting a wild hair up his *** and doing something really stupid domestically is real. There is also a real fear of Uncle Sam using the military as a police force of sorts, just ask any southerner old enough to have had a relative living during the reconstruction days after the civil war (it wasn't THAT long ago). Uncle Sam has recently said it was cool to blow up people that were US citizens without a trail, among other ****ed up things (before you say anything about that, OBL had a trial so STFU). If we don't question our government in everything it does, who will? I'd rather us sane non-wearers of tin-foil hats do it than the crack pots, but even a broken clock is right twice a day... if you can feel me.
See, I'm okay with that AS LONG as it doesn't get out of control, but the problem with that is, it normally does. I'm all for the Air force shooting down drug planes flying in and out of Mexico too if they were to okay that.

EDIT: And you already know the type of people I'm referring to.
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See, I'm okay with that AS LONG as it doesn't get out of control, but the problem with that is, it normally does. I'm all for the Air force shooting down drug planes flying in and out of Mexico too if they were to okay that.

EDIT: And you already know the type of people I'm referring to.
Granny Smith down the street, Lil' Johnny from the Hendershot household around the block, and Gunther the town mechanic. El - oh - el.
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However, given that my Soldiers would be required to follow said orders - it would be best for me as a junior officer to find another way around the orders, because I will simply be replaced and all my Soldiers will then still have to carry out the order.
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Granny Smith down the street, Lil' Johnny from the Hendershot household around the block, and Gunther the town mechanic. El - oh - el.
Granny smith has been an illegal arms dealer since the early 80's often selling RPG's and heavy machine guns to local gangs around the LA area and is responsible for the death of hundreds of innocent civilians and what ever animals these notorious gangs use for target practice.

Johnny, that little rascal, is a known human trafficker and runs a prostitution ring that would even make the Korean Mob bosses jealous. Johnny is not a very nice boy, and the fact he's only 14, makes it very easy for the authorities to overlook.

Gunther, is a mechanic, often fixing things that need fixed, either by execution or wrenches. Granny smith and Little Johnny often hire Mr. Gunther to preform world wide duties whacking those who need to be whacked. I understand though, he's just trying to make the world a better place.



EDIT: DT, You're implying you ever make it to that point.
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See, I'm okay with that AS LONG as it doesn't get out of control, but the problem with that is, it normally does. I'm all for the Air force shooting down drug planes flying in and out of Mexico too if they were to okay that.

EDIT: And you already know the type of people I'm referring to.
I'm down with shooting up CIA aircraft. They just had a CIA jet crash with some ridiculous amount of cocaine it was transporting from Mexico to the U.S.
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That last post of yours kind of put me off a bit. This is where **** goes awry. I take that **** personally. I hope you take this personal as well.



Let's start with two years ago.
You're a guy that took their driving test in December of 2009. You failed miserably, due to your nervousness and apparent lack of ability to perform under stress. Link.
This would mean that you were between the ages of 16-18 years of age... but let's assume you were 17. That makes you 19 years old now.

and closer....
Here's your first job... or at least your first interview for one. May 2010... 19 months ago. I got my first job at the age of 16, but you seem like you're a little slow with some things. You've been in the workforce less than two years. I'd call you a kid.

and closer....
In THIS post, we see that you pass your EMT class, and I assume you soon after get your current job as an EMT. That was just over a year ago. When we started calling you a kid, your response was something to the effect of "how many EMT's do you know that are kids?" Well, I know one now. You. You're not a minor, but you sure as hell aren't an adult yet.





And so that brings us closer and closer to where we are now... but I wanted to look back once more, to a thread you created in this very subforum a long time ago.



What happened between November 2009 and now? Why the sudden change of heart? You used to want to be like some of the people you now claim are similar to drones. In a timeframe that short.... is it possible that you were suddenly brainwashed?



The only thing I can think of would be this thread of yours.



I'm sorry that in July of this past summer, you had to endure the pain of a Grandfather dying. He must have been a pretty important and honorable man, to warrant a 21-gun salute. He also must have been very special to you, since you wanted to make a necklace out of one of the casings.

The difference between you and your grandfather is that he gave up many years of his life trying to make this world, this country, your family.... better. He undoubtedly understood that the government is corrupt and all that... but he still served his time by being a service member. As corrupt as he knew it was, he made it that much better for all of us.... or at the very least, made a valiant attempt.

Your grandfather and I have something in common. Something that you will never share with him. Service. Military life is a bit different than the rest of the world.... and everyone who's been through a deployment can attest to that. Gramps could. We can. We're in the same boat on this one.

So... The man who loved your family, and who you loved... he's gone now, and you're calling him and us "mindless". You're saying that he didn't serve his country, he just served big banks... and that he knew he was doing it, because he was a mindless robot.

Go tell your parents that. Go tell your grandmother that, if she's still living. I'm sure she'd love to hear you talk about her husband like that.



I have a message for you, guy..... you have much to learn about us. we're people too.... every screen name on here is a living, breathing, human being. We have families, some of us have children, and all of us have had grandparents whom we try to make proud. Please understand why we don't like you... you're stabbing your grandfather in the back with some of these comments, and we don't understand why.

I bet you're the kind of guy who would spit on his own grandfather's grave. What a disappointment you must be.
I was goin to post a long serious reply, but by seeing your tune in post after this, you dont really want to know anything, you just wanted to do something? i honestly dont know what you wanted to accomplish. btw im much older than 19, while the info you presented was on the money, you assuming i wrote it down correctly

As for my grand pappy. The man was a ****ing beast. several tours in nam as infantry, shot several times and notasigle****wasgiventhatday.jpeg, received the bronze star, purple heart etc. All he could do is beg me not join, but i didn't not join because of him. The truth is very seldom what we want to hear. He went to nam, but nam was bull****. He didn't need to go, because the reason for going was made up, just like how we got into WW2 was made up, just like why we went to iraq(both times) was made up, just like us in Afghanistan, and the reason for this future war with iran will be made up. The government lies, to everyone. The people, you, and the world. It was not necessary for any of you to go into iraq, its terrible you did, i cant imagine how terrible it must have been. But 911 was blow back, and none of the terrorist were even from iraq, and had zero ties with iraq. They were all from Saudi Arabia except like 2, so why didn't we attack them? Its all lies.

My last post was harsh, but its the truth. You guys indeed do all that stuff, so don't take it personal just because i pointed it out. So why not accept it from what it is. I lack combat experience, but that doesn't mean i cant use my brain to see what is going on. Just like you don't need to be a food connoisseur to know something doesn't taste good, i don't need to be age 30+ or have combat experience to see what the government does. Our government killed you, the CIA made the Taliban and al qaeda, the government made Saddam who he was. You guys are good noble men with the best intentions, but your bosses are not on the same page as you.
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Ok so what was your point in asking this question? What are you looking to hear or learn?
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Ok so what was your point in asking this question? What are you looking to hear or learn?
my objective was to get some anecdotal consensus, and i got it. Many of you will follow orders, many of you wont. We shall see what happens if a government lock down happens.
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It's obvious the fear-mongering has worked on you. You come in here, spouting your malarky to people who have experienced death and combat as if you are jebus's authority on the subject. It has been said before, but I feel these sentiments must be reiterated- These people here are not mindless drones. They are not uneducated retards who drool on themselves while waiting to be told what to do. While you claim to not be a kid, you sure as **** act as one. The people you are aruging with have sure as hell experienced much more than you. Their reaction to your bull**** is due in part to the fact that you have not gone through a boot camp of any sort. You have not experienced anything like them, yet you come in here and shove this conspiracy crap down their throats like they have never heard it, and need to be enlightened. While I have never experienced combat, (Just wrench on jets myself), I am friends with many who have. They are not robots, they are human. They do not need some kid coming in here and spewing this ****. You are not a prophet to the military masses.

If you're not a kid, then you still have a lot of growing up to do. I have known plenty of EMTs who started out at 16. They didn't do it for the recognition. They didn't do it for the ***** (or the dick in some cases). My girlfriend was a EMT/FF for 10 years. You took an oath to take care of the injured, and never harm anyone, but spew crap about hurting others. Why did you become an EMT? So you could show off to the world and blab about it in bars? You're an EMT-B, with roughly one year in and clearly still have a lot to learn.

Where do you see yourself in four years? Still an EMT, doing it for the badge?
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