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Old 11-27-2011, 10:51 AM #1
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Quick Black Magic Question

I want to build a black magic pump (the newer body). I heard the valve is not the standard cocker valve. Would it be the same as the trilogy valve? Also, will any other valve fit (karnivor, SR, or spyder)? Also what would be the pump arm length (I think it's 7 1/2")? And as far as the internals, would everything else be the same? Thanks!
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:41 AM #2
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Yeah, it's a trilogy valve, you can also use a maddman T1 valve or an AKA merlin spec tornado valve, spyder valve will fit but the valve pin will need replacing with a non-blowback pin. If you want cheap and decent go trilogy valve, if you want performance get the tornado valve.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:31 PM #3
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Excellent! And what about the pump arm length?
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Old 11-27-2011, 01:34 PM #4
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mid/halfblock, if you don't mind paying bnib prices get it at painballgateway, otherwise I don't have any measuring devices handy ATM.
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:00 PM #5
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Do either of you know where i can get a Hitman mod for a Karnivor Pump

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Old 12-17-2011, 06:08 PM #6
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Do you still have this? Let me know either way. Thanks
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:24 AM #7
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Do you still have this? Let me know either way. Thanks
Did you even read anything, or did you just see Black Magic and post in here like an idiot? This is a thread where a guy was asking for help on his gun, and NOT trying to sell it. Plus you're not even allowed to sell guns in this section of the site.

If you want to buy somebodies gun look through these forums for the one you want and ask the person selling it

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Old 12-19-2011, 12:08 PM #8
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Your cool.... I posted on the wrong thread. Your tough.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:21 AM #9
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:04 PM #10
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I wasn't looking for one. I posted ond the wrong thread and didn't notice. Thanks though lol
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:18 PM #11
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its an 11/16 valve

same as:
merlin, jole, sr, black magic, karnivore
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:56 PM #12
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JOLE's & Karni's use standard valve.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:11 PM #13
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Nvm. Was thinking the later Karnis did but apparently not
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:32 PM #14
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Actually according to this it is indeed 11/16 take note that it fits karnivore, trilogy, sr, black magic

http://paintballgateway.com/wgptrauvabr.html
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:59 PM #15
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I didn't think Karni's used an 11/16 valve. I know Black Magics and JOLEs use them though. Also this is an old thread that was answered by the first reply lol
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:01 PM #16
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PBgateway can say whatever they please, doesn't change the fact it's a standard valve.
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